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Saw this pro-opposition map, I guess there isn't much of info about this area. I only saw videos of rebels clashing with ISIS west of Ihtaimlat. Any source that Sawran is still under ISIS control ? I can't even remember SOHR reporting about this town at all... DuckZz ( talk) 19:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BypKP6kCQAAh3z6.png:large
This pro-opposition map by Archicivilians show those Kurdish held villages west of Azaz as IS held. Also it mentions a Kurdish held regime brigade near Afrin, but that can be ignored I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.115.90.112 ( talk) 19:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BypKP6kCQAAh3z6.png:large Made a few changes, but the font strains my eyes too much to fix the rest. Tgoll774 ( talk) 21:23, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Here new map from BBC which show situation around city Kobane. source Map from BBC confirmed the data on this map dated on 27 September from the deSyracuse. Hanibal911 ( talk) 16:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
ISIS has captured four villages after two days of fighting at al Ya’robeyyi. [1] Keep an eye out for names. EkoGraf ( talk) 18:57, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
it is three villages and they are كنانا و كنهو وهمدان,those villages are near falistin sharqi. Alhanuty ( talk) 02:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
1. Why is Deir al-Abbas in northern Daraa contested? Rebels stormed the town and the surrounding area according to SOHR sources? 2. Why are town in southeastern Daraa along the Jordanian border not added? Some of them are large: Mitayiah, Ma'arabah and Al-Tayibbah 3. Why is the town souteast of Hirak added as contested? I have seen no source 4. Why aren't the Daraa silos/Gharaz prison added as a rebel held military base? Because that's what it was — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 12:13, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I have an idea and I want all your opinions. Can we have a new piece for "International Bombing Targets" where we pin a targeted area with a certain image and leave it there for about 24 hours ... I feel this will be a positive contribution to the page as we hear about bombing campaigns but we don't see them here. What do all of you think? Malik Danno ( talk) 05:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
According to alalam saa capture Buwaida and Khirbet Masanah https://www.facebook.com/alalamarabic/posts/802647779772039 .But I think we need to wait more source to confirmed this Hwinsp ( talk) 16:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Clashes happening since this morning in Arbin(Irbin): [2] Keep an eye out on the Damascus front a lot of fighting is going on around Domua,Jobar,Ain Terma,Arbin and other towns. Daki122 ( talk) 12:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
As-Suhknah (Near Palmyra) has suddenly turned black. Any reliable source about that? Kihtnu ( talk) 07:13, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for this. Kihtnu ( talk) 19:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Syrian army captures al-Buwaydah and al-Masasnah in northern Hama province. Al-Buwaydah is already red but al-Masasnah village is not on the map.
al-Masasnah - 35°17'26.0"N 36°39'50.0"E
Line 24-25 Link (Arabic): http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2014/9/30/%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%AF%D9%85-%D9%84%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B6%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%81-%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%82-%D9%88%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%AC%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8 YasminSham88 ( talk) 19:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
location: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.279889&lon=36.651249&z=13&m=b&gz=0;366483306;352820261;416278;366358;0;126107;112438;0;509834;190554;542449;332741;434303;377563;353622;325737 Hwinsp ( talk) 19:54, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
As far as I know, Deir Adas is not contested as rebels are clashing with SAA forces few kilometers to the north of the city, of course I can only provide videos but here are some SOHR statements from the town getting bombarded by regime aircrafts and barel bombs.
Also Mafkar (Hama rural) should go contested — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuckZz ( talk • contribs) 09:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
We should also add a green ring around half of Madinat al-Bath in Quneitra. Also, we have strange red and black dot's apprearing in Syrian Kurdistan (Hasakah). Suddenly, ISIS seems to be al around Rabiah crossing, whilst that are has been under YPG control for months. Fighting is on the Iraqi side of the crossing. Also, note the red dot above Tell Brak. No source given, just randomly edited into the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.204.195 ( talk) 11:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
according to sohr ,saa advancing in deir adas http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=24324&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VCwY1vl_spo Hwinsp ( talk) 15:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
SOHR reports the air force is bombing at least parts of Kafr Shams, Daraa Boredwhytekid ( talk) 18:45, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Agreed Boredwhytekid ( talk) 19:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be changed to contested the situation is unknown, also put a green ring around khirbet ghazala,there was clashes occuring near by it,
also there is a rebel-held zone in the western ghouta near Kiswa and A Pro-government analyst pointed it out via https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/513382288479256576
also there has been many SOHR reports of Air-raids on Dirkhabiyah, Zakyah, Mukaylibah, Al-Taybah, there was also may SOHR reports about clashes near Kiswah western frontier , and it is not good to keep towns under government control, if the government shells those cities. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:48, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
A Pro-government source posted a map of it confirming the opposition presense, https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/513382288479256576. Alhanuty ( talk) 22:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC) https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/583846421723700 https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/585315961576746 https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/585233134918362 http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=23692&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VB4Ba_ldWSo http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=23506&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VB4BqPldWSo http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=23497&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VB4ByvldWSo http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=23068&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VB4CGPldWSo
the sources mentioned that Taybah and Zakyah and Mukaylibah and Dirkhabiyah as bombarded with barrel bombs, i think that it should be considered to mark this rebel-held zone. there is frequent reports of Bombardment, what else has to be brought also a Pro-Government analyst PetoLucem confirmed the rebel presense,by posting a map of the rebel held area in the Western Ghouta. Alhanuty ( talk) 22:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
and these are like four towns.
and here is another one http://syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=23274&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VB4D3vldWSo. SOHR links. Alhanuty ( talk) 22:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Add those back, as someone deleted those dots. Also, paint that area green in the Damascus and W/E Ghouta map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.176.177.244 ( talk) 20:38, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
I think it is time for a green circle around Kafr Shams. Multiple sources SOHR SOHR SOHR Syrianpersp SANA have, over the course of this month, reported skirmishes in, and barrel bombing of, Kafr Shams. Now, since there has not been any widespread media coverage of fighting IN this town, I don't think "contested" would be appropriate yet. But, there's obviously fighting around (if not in) Kafr Shams, and we've sat on this topic for over a week now Boredwhytekid ( talk) 18:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Could someone please provide a source for its change from red to green? I must have missed something. Thank you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:660:4701:1002:2520:C3D:7238:81CA ( talk) 09:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
There are some isolated places, recently changed, which are being deep into "enemy" territory:
- Al Taman'ah (East of Khan Shaykhun) as a red dot
- Khan Al-Sibel (South of Saraqib) as a red dot
- Al-Halbah (South of Palmyra) as a black dot.
Are there any reliable and neutral sources for this? Kihtnu ( talk) 19:26, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
OK thanks. It would be good to remove Al-Halbah as well. Kihtnu ( talk) 20:51, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
It is just a dot in the middle of the desert http://wikimapia.org/#lang=it&lat=34.079678&lon=38.433266&z=17&m=b. It can probably be removed, I doubt anybody can 'control' it or has any interest in doing so. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Firstly,Al-halbah was mentioned by multiple sources that it was bombed by the international coalition and this is significant,that is why it is added. Alhanuty ( talk) 04:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC) and Al-halbah also lies in the hammad desert. Alhanuty ( talk) 04:52, 2 October 2014 (UTC) and also the wall street journal shows it via http://followtheidiot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/image23-274x300.jpg. Alhanuty ( talk) 04:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Maybe we should mark all the villages in Kobame countryside becasue some of reliable sources reported that yesterday Islamic State backed by tanks and mortars captured the final village on the outskirts of Kobani. Bloomberg The Washington Post and pro opposition Kurdish source said that the amid sharp shortage of weapons the Kurdish forces of the Popular Protection Units (YPG) withdrawal from the city suburbs the city Kobane. Ara News And SOHR reported that ISIS have taken over 350 villages in the past 16 days, and now located is hundreds of meters away from Ayn al-Arab(Kobane). SOHR Hanibal911 ( talk) 21:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
There are pro-government claims that SAA took control of some villages in Lattakia countryside: Ayn Al-Joozi, Raweesa, Al-Jawa'ara, Al-Balata Kabeer,Tal Doreen and Al-Ghanama I found on wikimapia that the Tal Doreen should be approximately here http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.661899&lon=36.143990&z=15&m=b. Any idea on the position of the others? Paolowalter ( talk) 19:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
There is the official Syrian Officials confirmation http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=14589 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.203.137.34 ( talk) 10:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
i found some of them
ghanama(ghunamaiyah) : http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.712336&lon=36.097770&z=16&m=b
ayn al jaws(joozi): http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.657566&lon=36.196496&z=16&m=b
tel doreen: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.663294&lon=36.148582&z=15&m=b
al balata: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.646312&lon=36.170683&z=15&m=b Hwinsp ( talk) 12:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
i agree with boredwhytekid.We need wait neutral sources.If neutral or pro opp sources confirm this news ,we will make this towns red — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwinsp ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
There are multiple government videos and pictures in celebration of there victory: Part of the opperation [3] Also this coincides with reports of Jabhat al Nusra leaving [4] Idlib and other regions in the North to join ISIS in Raqqa. Daki122 ( talk) 16:17, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
pro opp source syria direct says saa capture villages around doreen mountain http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=de5b0724de9eafd679e2e0c36&id=bccf4d1ed1&e=145f7ae018 Hwinsp ( talk) 17:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
why is the module not updating the map. Alhanuty ( talk) 15:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/516345405123362816 Pro-regime source(considered by you pro-regime guys to be really reliable) says clashes happening AT the city. So contested — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.115.90.112 ( talk) 00:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
A new map from an unknown source http://www.fps-predators.com/#/syriasouthern-syria/4586312496 Similar to ours but with some differences. May we use for something? Paolowalter ( talk) 20:08, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I think this map is produced by looking at our own Wikipedia map. You can see the exact same towns contested and in rebel/SAA hands that we had two of three weeks ago. Minor differences, but most have later been added. I doubt this is a really valid map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 07:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Can someone find the source for this map? I don't want to make any changes till its been sourced. http://oi57.tinypic.com/15wcdg3.jpg Tgoll774 ( talk) 11:58, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
The village of Zawr Mahruqah [5] has been captured by the Army and there is video evidence a government TV crew has tiured the village and the recaptured zone Video: [6]. Daki122 ( talk) 13:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
JAZAH AND RAQQA-MANBIJ!
Islamic State controls FSA-areas between Manbij and Raqqa since april 2014 and this morning they have taken Jazah in Hasakah-province,YPG retreated! Almost the whole south of Yarubiyah now under IS! 79.233.4.238 ( talk) 13:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
yes,the Jazaa area is under IS control. Alhanuty ( talk) 14:33, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I think we can remove the green circle around al-Rai, and turn Tathumus and Waqf from yellow to black - I do not have sources for these proposed changes, but they seem like common sense, seeing as how the IS pushed the front line significantly to the west quite some time ago. Fellow editors, your opinions? Boredwhytekid ( talk) 20:18, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
SOHR says saa capture handarat village and handarat hill and cut the last supply road. source: http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=24414&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VC529_l_spo
location: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=36.293579&lon=37.152843&z=15&m=b Hwinsp ( talk) 10:17, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
translation from sohr eng: https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/591394617635547 handarat village and handarat hill under SAA control Hwinsp ( talk) 11:47, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
According to pro-gov and neutral twittersources Handarat north of Aleppo is controlled by SAA https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/517971626844237825. SOHR confirms the advance http://syriahr.com/en/2014/10/9-combatants-were-killed-in-clashes-in-aleppo/ Exact extent of the advance to be understood (Handarat city, Handarat district, Sayfat?). Paolowalter ( talk) 10:22, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Alepo is under siege according to SOHR [7] Army captured Handarat village and the hill with the same name. Daki122 ( talk) 12:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
SAA also captured al-Mudafah and Sıfat . source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-syria-crisis-aleppo-idUSKCN0HS0ZV20141003?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews Hwinsp ( talk) 12:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Newest map from Peto Lucem(very reliable, reporting both SAA/snackbar gains)
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/518054882042216448/photo/1 — Preceding
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Siege of Aleppo is tightening. Map should be adjusted to show this: clashes ongoing in the villages of Sifat and Dowir al-Zeitoun, around eight kilometres north of Aleppo.
CNN reports Handarat has fallen. blocked the road leading into Aleppo.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/21843
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/03/world/meast/syria-civil-war/
Reuters reports capture of al-Mudafah in northern Aleppo:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-syria-crisis-aleppo-idUSKCN0HS0ZV20141003
SAA is already at El Mallah
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=hu&lat=36.280745&lon=37.130227&z=15&m=b&show=/30935720/El-Mallah&search=El%20Mallah opposition video confirms it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vwMJqyKpTA — Preceding
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the Turkish ground intervention in the Syrian Civil war is very imminent,so we need a new color for the dots that will be under the control of the Turkish military. Alhanuty ( talk) 14:08, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Don't think turkey will actuly capture anything in Syria it will be more of cross border shelling and air strikes. 79.126.229.239 ( talk) 14:12, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
they are planning a buffer zone 30-35 Km deep into Syria on the entire border,which means they will be capturing alots of towns. Alhanuty ( talk) 14:32, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
This is just a discussion people,in case that Turkey intervenes,and it will most likely intervene with Ground force. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC) Hannibal,the decision has be taken already so what do you editors propose it to be. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Anyone got any source why this was change to red to contested ? -- Pototo1 ( talk) 01:29, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Which was the source given to do such change? SOHR only reported four villages around Tel Kocher/Yarubiya, which not included Jaz'ah, which was turned to YPG controlled a few weeks ago when YPG uploaded footage of its control of the area.
190.254.21.236 ( talk) 21:42, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
SOHR reports about barel bombs falling around the town, and that means the town itself is not contested but the area to the north. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.72.111 ( talk) 21:54, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, Deir Adas is fully rebel held. Also, we need to keep a eye open for the situation in Daara, many sources saying that the rebels captured Zimrin, Peto Lucem said that Opp. sources: Insurgents have captured #Zimrin village in #Daraa Governorate. Also many rebel sources claiming Um Awsaj to be captured by the rebels, and they are advancing towards Harrah. So far, no reliable sources, but keep and eye out for news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.212.62.198 ( talk) 16:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, just like I said, he said Opp. sources. I just pointed out we need to follow the situation closely — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.212.62.198 ( talk) 17:59, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
SOHR reported fighting on Tell Harrah yesterday, with both rebels and soldiers killed. The attack came from the west. What does that say about red towns in southern Quneitra? I think most, if not all, of those five towns are rebel held. What do you al think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:06, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Why is Adwan, next to Tasil/Tsil in Daraa, label "Matallah"? Boredwhytekid ( talk) 13:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
we are going to need a template for Lebanon,to show who controls the ground in Lebanon between IS and Hezbollah and the Lebanese government. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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Eib and Kuraym al Janubi are exactly at the same position on this map. According to google-maps Eib should be in 2-3 km to south-east from Kuraym al Janubi. 87.117.178.100 ( talk) 13:04, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Why Al-Halbah and Dalhos were removed from the map? it's under IS control and was bombed by the colation. It's an important town to connect the Syrian and Iraq desert. 3bdulelah ( talk) 18:59, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
i also wonder why they wanted to do that. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Twitter sources claiming rebels are advancing again in Daraa/Quneitra province since two days. Seems rebels have taken over:
I've found the following sources: 1. http://syriahr.com/en/2014/10/clashes-in-daraa-left-18-deaths-on-al-nusra-and-rebel-battalions-side/ (half green circle around Gharagheb and Umm Awsaj contested) 2. http://syriahr.com/en/2014/10/5362/ (Othman town contested)
Also, there are numerous claims of videos from Harrah. Pro-GOV Twitter source Peto Lucem confirming Zimrin, Um Awsaj and Tell Harrah have been taken: 1. https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/518352785545646080 2. https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/518723094392078336 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 15:17, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
for the SOHR source,i would agree on those edits,put a green circle around Ghabagheb and Um Aswag.and i would keep a clear eye on Peto Lucem,since it is a pro-government source confirming a rebel advance. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:01, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
We also need to debate the red/contested towns in southern Quneitra. If rebels have taken Tell Harah and are besieging Harrah town from all sides, as reports indicate, should that mean that those five towns are rebel held? It seems so since the frontlines are far away from them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 20:13, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
i agree so. Alhanuty ( talk) 20:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
I think another good thing would be to add one army base next to Tell Hara, because I belive one checkpoint for this city is not enough as this area is one of the biggest in Daara province. The army base should be red until the entire town goes green. DuckZz ( talk) 21:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
two israeli media reports saying nusra and fsa took over harrah hill, city and the surrounding area: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4577895,00.html http://www.kosherpress.com/nusra-front-says-it-took-over-al-harra-area-near-syrian-israeli-border/
so this would mean harrah city to green and possibly nimr south of it. Also towns west of harrah in southern quneitra to green ... the army is not there if harrah and nearby towns have fallen already. Earlier sohr reports make um awsaj contested. What about Zimrin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serberust ( talk • contribs) 22:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
source for zimrin to green:
http://aranews.net/2014/10/syrians-receive-eid-al-adha-mounting-death-toll/
So Zimrin, Harrah, Um Awsaj, and southern Quneitra to the rebels? Everyone agrees? It's the most logical thing, since the rebels couldn't besiege Harra before holding all the area around — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.58.251.145 ( talk) 22:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
According to reliable sources, the fighting is still going on the outskirts of the city Kobane but not inside it. The Daily Star Naharnet Al Arabia Hanibal911 ( talk) 12:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Pro-rebel map DuckZz ( talk) 15:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
IS CONTROLS WHOLE RAQQA-PROVINCE!
http://justpaste.it/Taqreer000 That´s the official IS-map from early august. No FSA left between Aleppo and Raqqa! 79.233.53.154 ( talk) 15:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
This is a big joke :,) "the official IS map says so". If that's not a biased source, than we can use an Islamic Front made map to show rebels in central Damascus pounding Assad's home with dung ... sight — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:10, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
The situation here is unclear but I don't think the BBC or Washington Post maps are proof of FSA control in parts of Raqqa. They simply show IS as controlling the main towns in all of their territory while not saying anything about the desert areas or small villages. On balance I would guess that IS does control all of Raqqa but it is hard to say for certain given the information available at the moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.181.174 ( talk) 23:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Official ISIS map from August 2014: http://justpaste.it/Taqreer000. These two towns are under SAA control. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C01B:89F0:4C1F:A767:8E14:8CED ( talk) 02:34, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Why are all the green dots in Raqqah changed to black? There was no discussion here, no sources given. Revert :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 09:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Whole Raqqa-province is under IS-control,there is no FSA left! It´s even more than questionable whether nor not FSA is still between Manbij and Tishrin-dam! Most credible sources say,that this area is also under IS now! 79.233.0.170 ( talk) 14:59, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
https://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/2000px-syria8.png This is a pro rebel source. If we can get another collaborating source, then the map should be updated Tgoll774 ( talk) 12:28, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Harrah to green: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4577895,00.html
This should also make red towns in southern quneitra green as the frontline moves already towards kafr shams town.
Zimrin to green: http://aranews.net/2014/10/syrians-receive-eid-al-adha-mounting-death-toll/
Um Awsaj contested: http://syriahr.com/en/2014/10/clashes-in-daraa-left-18-deaths-on-al-nusra-and-rebel-battalions-side/
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Via all those reliable sources,Harrah and Tal Harrah and Zimrin and Um Aswaj should be put as green. Alhanuty ( talk) 23:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
this is not vandalizing this map. We made towns near abu ad duhur contested because of reports of fighting in the area. Kobani was first made contested because is reported to be in the town. But as zoon as rebels advance we need six sources that show exactly how far they have advanced. No more .... these are all valid sources that state that rebels control a lot more than this map shows. So green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serberust ( talk • contribs) 07:09, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Electronic Resistance Army (pro-SAA) twitter confirming fighting in Jannuyah, Daraa, near Zimrin: https://twitter.com/ResistanceER/status/519081125223096321 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 11:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Looks like more adjustments must be made. Al-monitor (one of the few sources that is critical of all sides on the conflict) explains Rebels captured al-Duhanniya in eastern Ghouta last month. It adds government took back control of parts of Qalamoun hills and mountain of Ghouta. It cites government state-media as claiming Town of al-Kurdi which is southwest of Adra is under government control and that is placing more pressure on rebels with cross-fire. It also states that Harasta , 5 kilomteres north of Damascus, is under rebel control. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/10/syria-regime-victory-adra-douma.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.1.105 ( talk) 21:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
One user has added 9 "green dots" north of Busra Al Harir on 31st of July. I can't find that he have posted ANY source for that edit? If no reliable source provided, they should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comins2008 ( talk • contribs) 03:34, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Will someone update the Aleppo map to show the rebel part of the city under siege government forces have captured three villages Handarat town and the hill by the same name days ago and no one has updated the map.Also update the Damascus map Jobar has been contested for the past month and on the map it is still painted as rebel held. Daki122 ( talk) 13:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
False. Rebels have retaken rural areas north of Aleppo and control at least 50% of Handarat. Latest reports suggest the SAA has retreated from Handarat village itself. Jobar is rebel held, but some streets are taken over by the SAA. Heavy bombardment ongoing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 17:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
STOP LYING 84.24.43.183 and you should stop folowing archicivilians mark or vs(only that kids said rebels captured handarat). SAA official report INSIDE Handarat TODAY.source: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=846182498747987 Reports said saa full control of handarat and Report shows saa repelled nusra attacks .And jobar should contested.Thanks Hwinsp ( talk) 18:05, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
And saa captures full of dukhaniya area. source: http://www.syriahr.com/index.php?option=com_news&nid=24553&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.VDLbmPl_uQl Hwinsp ( talk) 18:13, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Hwsimp, you should watch a LOT less SANA. That report doesn't show anything. There have been similar opposition reporters in Handarat today. So no change without a neutral source.
Where is your source? You guys talking about half of handarat under nusra control and saa retreat.Where is your source? If you want trustable source it is the Last neutral source said handarat under SAA control: https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/591394617635547 .GIVE me one new source about saa retreat handarat. Hwinsp ( talk) 18:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
They have already atualized the Aleppo map. And no, the rebel areas are not under full siege yet. Smaller roads still reach the city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.58.251.145 ( talk) 20:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Oppositions sources claiming rebel advances (except SOHR) are not taken into account due to the possibility of propaganda. Same goes for Government sources claiming army advances. Only source we agreed to use for advances and losses of both parties is SOHR due to them, even though being pro-opposition, are neutral in their reporting. This has been discussed a hundred times and always with the same result. Archicivilians is an ultra pro-opposition source, if its reporting a rebel advance it is not to be taken into account, just like we don't take into account SANA when reporting army advances. If SOHR reported the rebels recapturing Handarat than yes we would change it to rebel-held. But as of yet the last word from SOHR was that the Army captured it and that there was continuing fighting in the area (which does not necessarily mean the town itself). EkoGraf ( talk) 20:27, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
2602:30A:C01B:89F0:4C1F:A767:8E14:8CED, you're right, the dearth of first hand reporting is a major obstacle to our endeavor here - consequence of the high percent of reporter casualties in this conflict. It's also true that western/gulf media outlets prefer SOHR b/c "they do not want to send reporters to Syria and SOHR conveys that Anti-Assad message they want" - no doubt. Nonetheless, and to point, if you dig for confirmation of SOHR's battlefield gains/loses reports, you can typically find it - albeit in video form, or belated confirmation by the reluctantly vanquished. Boredwhytekid ( talk) 12:33, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The SAA has captured Al Jabin aswell as two other towns in Hama governate comment added by SyAAF ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Fars News and Press TV? Find neutral source first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.185.36.51 ( talk) 12:48, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The town al Jabin mentioned is most likely Jubbayn http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35.339214&lon=36.512632&z=14&m=b, town that changed hand several times in the last weeks. It is already red. Paolowalter ( talk) 18:21, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
On the map just between Lataminah and Suran it is marked the Madajin check point. In this area in wikimapia there is a small village MArkabeh http://wikimapia.org/#lang=it&lat=35.317226&lon=36.669273&z=13&m=b On the other hand a check point named Madajin is marked here http://wikimapia.org/#lang=it&lat=35.258376&lon=36.665840&z=15&m=b Is it a mistake? If yes, probably the village is green and the checkpoint red. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
From SOHR https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/590502561058086 it appears that SAA is attcking a few cities: Alltamneh, Kafar Zayta, Morek, Latmin, al Bwaydah, Ma’er Kebbeh and Lahaya. The situation of the first three is clear, al Bwaydah was (re)taken yesterday. I think that Latmin, Ma’er Kebbeh and Lahaya can be turned green as is expected from the position. At the same time the Madajin check point should be moved at the right position and become red. Paolowalter ( talk) 15:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
AREA BETWEEN MANBIJ AND RAQQA UNDER IS-CONTROL! So if all agree, I add cities Latmin, Ma’er Kebbeh under control by rebels and also put city Lahaya to under control by rebels and move the Madajin checkpoint to the right location and put him to red. The FSA-pockets between Manbij and Raqqa are under IS-control for already several months! How can you ignore these facts? Tishrin-dam is under IS-control,so the rest is also under IS! All credible guys on Twitter confirm it as well! SOHR also stated,that Tishrin-dam is under IS and that whole Raqqa-province is under IS after YPG was expelled from the last area east of Kobane ten days ago! Your fantasy-map is a joke,only the reality on the ground is important and the reality is,that this area was seized by IS already in the first months of this year! 79.233.63.17 ( talk) 07:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Dear User, you provide no single source (Twitter is not a source). You just randomly claim that several villages are IS held instead of FSA. So, you give a valid source and we add. If not, don't complain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 07:58, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
AIRSTRIKES NEAR TISHRIN-DAM AND MANBIJ! https://www.facebook.com/syriahroe/posts/590849354356740 Last proof,that no FSA is left between Manbij and Raqqa! All Syria-maps are wrong! 217.226.66.37 ( talk) 13:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
According to this Pro-Rebel map Jaba is not encircled, put it back to red without green presence. That's about it as nothing else can be changed but this map shows Dwayah, Hajjah, Nimer, Mamtinah etc way under rebel control but I don't want to change anything, discuss. DuckZz ( talk) 23:58, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
you cant use rebel map for rebel gains, you need pro-gov map pyphonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War&action=edit§ion=61# — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyphon ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Morek taken all or in part by SAA according to tweet from opposition sources https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/519739157669634049. Waiting for confirmation. Paolowalter ( talk) 07:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Actually, the same source reported, https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/519757647252176896 so, as of now, Morek stays as it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.181.92.207 ( talk) 09:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Actually, an Islamic Front source https://twitter.com/islamic_front/status/521909469484433408 reported that the front has taken back morek Tank batallion, it should be in green. 20:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC+1)