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What are these schools supposed to be rivals in? One is D-I, the other D-III and I've never heard of them playing one another. BigKennyK 19:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
With no response in over 2 months, I'm going to remove the Case/Cleveland State rivalry. BigKennyK 01:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
This page appears to be entirely about University rivalry. Should it be moved to University rivalry, as "School" does not mean "University" in all parts of the English-speaking world (it is never used to mean this in Britain), whereas I believe "University" is generally-understood? TSP 17:12, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
College rivalry might be better as there are a number of entries which are colleges and not universities. Brholden 18:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
As there are a significant number of rivalries listed here which are primarly related to US institutions, many of which are related to college football, might it not be better to seperate those entries into a seperate sub-article?
Most of the entries are 2-way rivalries. One entry has the three-way Army-Navy-AirForce rivalry. Recently someone added a 5-way rivalry which undoubted is a much more diffuse, "tournament" level rivalry. I don't know where this stops - does this lead to adding say the "Big Ten" as a ten-way rivalry? What do people think? Brholden 18:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Is this list getting too obscure with listings like University at Albany and Siena College's basketball rivaly? This is a rivalry of little to no importance even within the state of NY. I can understand many of the rivalries on here, Army-Navy, Bama-Auburn, Duke-UNC, FSU-Miami, and many others, but where do we end it? Should some sort of national recognition or importance come into play? I mean, SUNY Potsdam and Clarkson? Seems a tad local to be relevant. AriGold 12:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
-Does Tennessee/Kentucky really deserve to be on this list?
How do we decide which team to put first? -- 68.190.51.99 01:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
"Though this contest is usually one-sided, it seems to be growing from year to year."
I don't understand this sentence. I'd attempt to fix it, but I really have no idea what it is attempting to say
They are public schools, in the South, not federal military academies. Unless anyone has objections, I'm gonna move them in the next week or so to the southeastern rivalries section.... Cornell Rockey 03:58, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Deleted 'Notre Dame' football rivalries -- no school has 8 (or so) rivalries. ND-USC and ND-Michigan are certainly worthy of the list (if someone will add them to the appropriate place) but the school does not deserve it's own section.
Perhaps eight is excessive. Nonetheless, rather than performing mass deletions and then requesting that others fill the void you have left, it would be more productive to not delete the information that you think is appropriate for inclusion. Rather than simply reverting, I am going to restore the Notre Dame Rivals section, with USC and Michigan only. If others think that the nature of Notre Dame Football allows it to have eight rivals, I will not be offended if you add them back (I think that it would be polite to explain why you restored a rivalry in the Discussion). -- Skeenbr0 03:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
This page should be coordinated with [ [1]] and [ [2]] TonyTheTiger 14:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone recently added Miami and Florida International as a “failed attempt to start a rivalry.” Whereas the football teams have only met once, whereas the media is now calling for this game to never be played again, whereas this list is already overburdened with secondary rivalries, and whereas this entry doesn’t match the criteria of the article (however hard it may be to see, it is actual college rivalry, not attempts) I propose that this “rivalry” be deleted. Please comment within a week if you see a need to save this entry. -- Skeenbr0 00:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
No-one came forward to defend it, so I deleted it. If you revert, please justify here, and if the justification is reasonable, I will not object.-- Skeenbr0 02:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
There is no such rivalry between Kansas State and the University of Texas (under the Big 12 section). There is a small bulletin board where the posters are actually bragging about editing the wikipedia to this effect. Peruse hornfans.com and you will see that the Kansas State game is not even a main topic of conversation. It is well known nationally that Texas has rivalries with Texas A&M and Oklahoma. Suggestion that any attempt to edit otherwise should result in the editor being banned.
This ip address is a one that certainly needs to be banned from editing this page:24.249.61.254 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mconstant37 ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
There is zero rivarly here. Utterly none. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatty4ksu ( talk • contribs) 14:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
24.163.232.245 keeps editing this page falsely. We play the undo edit game every few weeks. Total vandal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mconstant37 ( talk • contribs) 17:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There is bragging on the vandalism at this location: http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=16404.0 Mconstant37 ( talk) 17:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it might be in a good policy to not include any rivalry that does not include a legitmate citation. Otherwise, the definition of a rivalry becomes subject to interpretation.
After a given point in time, any additional rivalries have a pre-qreuisite of an included citation before included into this list.
I would definite a rivalry as when a trophy prize is given at the end of a match/competition. The match should be identified. A good example is the USC/UCLA & CAL/Stanford Lexus Gauntlet
Amiaheroyet ( talk) 15:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
First, a lot of the problem with this page is that there are a lot of rivalries that are no longer rivalries. They should have their own page and get off this one.
Second, if rivals each won about half the time, the Red Sox and Yankees became a rivalry in 2004 and isn't before. A rivalry is teams that play all the time for decades. Typically, the game has a name other than the Team A-Team B rivalry or games start being known by specific names, e.g., Civil War, Red River Shootout, etc. Also, they will usually have a trophy of some kind or will have tried to implement one only to have it buried in the desert, lost, or stolen. There also is a story involving the trophy and at least one crazy brawl. Any other series is simply a series.
Third, rivalries are rivalries because the teams care more about the opponent than the opponent's rank. Often, teams play each other each highly ranked, but, if both teams stunk neither team would care. Those aren't rivals.
That said:
Penn State's only Big 10 rivals are Michigan State and Minnesota. Just because Michigan and Ohio State are good doesn't make Penn State their rival, no matter how much Penn State wants to be.
Penn State-Pittsburgh was a huge rivalry. Penn State-Pittsburgh-West Virginia was a huge rivalry. I guess Syracuse can be in there, though I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject. This should go on the old rivalries page.
Notre Dame's rivalries don't include Army, Miami, and Northwestern. They include Stanford (Legends Trophy). Michigan is Notre Dame's fifth biggest rival. To leave off Boston College, Michigan State, and Purdue in favor of Michigan is dopey. If Michigan's Notre Dame's second-biggest rival, Penn State is Michigan's second-biggest rival. A rivalry means more to the teams than the records would warrant. Michigan and Notre Dame means a lot because they are generally both highly ranked. It's my firm belief that terrible records would take the wind out of the sails of this "rivalry." Other than them being the two winningest teams in college football, how are they rivals? Michigan State and Purdue have proximity. BC has religion. Notre Dame-USC has history. What does Michigan have?
Arizona and Oregon aren't rivals. I loathe Oregon, but Arizona is filled with poor sports that are tasteless. If Arizona was a rival with every team that thought that, they'd be a rival with everyone they played. Stoops has turned a once-proud program into Fresno State East.
Oregon State and Washington aren't rivals. Oregon and Washington are. Any Beaver fan who says otherwise is jealous or ignorant.
Stanford and USC (two private Pac-10 schools) are bigger rivals than Cal and USC. A couple decent years does not a rivalry make.
Auburn and Florida are much bigger rivals than Auburn and LSU. If any Florida "rivalry" isn't one, it's Auburn-Florida. It should go on the old rivalry page. Auburn and LSU are merely the two best teams in the West.
East Carolina and NC State aren't rivals no matter how much North Carolina wants them to be.
Louisville and West Virginia aren't rivals; they just play in the worst BCS conference.
Florida and Miami(FL) aren't rivals. They used to be.
All in all, the goal of this page should be to eliminate rivalries.
Wilkyisdashiznit ( talk) 06:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I am uncertain how art schools can have team rivalries, which is the name of the page. Perhaps, they should have their own page. The section probably should be removed from this page. Wilkyisdashiznit ( talk) 20:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Old Big East men's basketball rivalries will continue in new settings, e.g. Syracuse vs. Georgetown, Syracuse vs. Villanova, Syracuse, vs. Louisville... These may fit best under 'interstate' rivalries for now, w/ the latter continuing into the ACC as of 2014. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 14:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion the reference to Sciences Po Paris's 'Grande Ecole' status should be removed, as the other IEP also have this status. I think 'Elite institution' is enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.234.30.202 ( talk) 21:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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