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this link has some good info. - Pete ( talk) 21:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is there NO mention of the Tribes that normally inhabited Celilo and the Middle Oregon territory? These Tribes and bands consist of the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs, the Yakama Nation, Umatilla and the Nez Perce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.162.30 ( talk) 01:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have the Lewis & Clark journals? I couldn't find the "emporium" quote online, except for some sketchily sourced places that look they might have taken their information from the earlier Wikipedia article. It would be good to get the citation from the primary source here. Northwesterner1 ( talk) 13:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
This seems to be complete version of their journals. — EncMstr 23:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Per request this has been reviewed and upgraded to B class. A few notes below should help towards GA:
That’s about it for a quick run through. A thorough copy edit is always a good idea before GA nomination. Great job improving a key cultural place in the NW’s history. Aboutmovies ( talk) 00:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to work out some details on the rapids below Celilo Falls for addition to this page and will try to add stuff as I can. But looking at the text I see some issues right away. First, the claim that there is a drop of 83 feet over a half mile can't be right. I see it referenced to the World Waterfalls Database, which does indeed say just this. But every other source I have disagrees. The 83 foot drop should be for the entire stretch of rapids below Celilo Falls, which is on the order of 20-30 miles long, not a half mile. The text says the total rapids was 11 miles long. My understanding is that it was more, but I'll check. Also, the info on the rapids below the falls is a bit confusing as currently written. I'll try to rewrite more clearly, although I'm still trying to figure it all out. I'm skeptical about the term Celilo Falls being used for the whole of the rapids -- I can believe someone has used it that way, but it seems odd. The USGS in any case does not include Celilo Falls among the many variants names for the rapids as a whole. Anyway, just a heads up that I may be editing a bit here, and that I'm a little skeptical of the World Waterfalls Database page. Pfly ( talk) 03:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the first thing one should see is an image and not the black video screen. Can we move one of the images up and the video lower down? Katr67 ( talk) 21:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't have time to go through all this right now, but this seems an excellent source for detailed info about the various rapids and falls around The Dalles and Celilo: Lewis and Clark: Leaving the Gorge, also the following two pages ("continue"). Some particular maps/photos of note: The Dalles, Three Mile Rapids, The Dalles to Three Mile Rapids, The Dalles, 1858, Photo of Five Mile Rapids aka The Dalles. I'm posting these here to remind myself if nothing else. Pfly ( talk) 21:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This one too: The Evolving Landscape of the Columbia River Gorge. Pfly ( talk) 21:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Are there any aerial good photos of the falls from before the flooding? I'd love to see exactly where it was, its layout, etc. -- Ragemanchoo ( talk) 06:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm of the school of thought that infoboxes are not always necessary in articles. In this case, I feel the addition of the infobox detracts from the article by (a) creating white space in the lead section, and more importantly, (b) putting the emphasis on Celilo Falls as a waterfall rather than as a tribal fishing and trading site. The primary encyclopedic value of Celilo Falls is its status as the oldest continuously inhabited community in North America, not its status as the 6th largest (former) waterfall in the world. For me, the article has more in common with, say, Bridge of the Gods or Kettle Falls or Rattlesnake Mountain than it does with Niagara Falls. The infobox puts an emphasis on flow rate (which was highly variable) and ranking among other waterfalls (6th largest in the world) that takes something away from the main point of the article. Moreover, I don't feel it adds any useful information. The coordinates and photo can be used outside the infobox, and the other information is more appropriately restricted to the geography section at the top of the article. Other thoughts on the infobox? Northwesterner1 ( talk) 08:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
This is a very interesting article--I recall reading an article about the impending completion of The Dalles Dam in one of my father's old Popular Mechanics magazine in the early 1960s when I was 5 or 6. The article even had pictures of the fishing platforms with the caption: The Dalles Dam will soon bury these platforms forever.
I'm an electrical engineer (retired after 30+ years with Alcoa), and I consider it usually a good thing to generate hydroelectricity. I now find myself wondering whether it was really necessary to bury Celilo Falls for the sake of Seattle, Portland, Hanford, Los Angeles (through the DC Intertie), and the aluminum plants.
What's bothering me in the article is the caption describing orientation of the color picture of the falls at the top of the article. The river is descending as it flows westward, so it would be implied that the view of the falls and platforms is looking to the east, as captioned.
However, in the background, the through truss spans of the Oregon Trunk Line rail bridge--which are known to be on the south/Oregon side of the crossing--are to image left. This would imply that we are looking to the west.
From what I can tell, the river appears to have made a bend to its left in excess of 90 degrees before plunging over the falls, and then had to turn back to its right by about the same amount to continue flowing downstream. Is that how it used to flow before the falls were drowned?
NW and Pete--when you see this entry, please don't think I'm being critical of your work.
Call me Mikey.
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I was surprised to hear this name pronounced, because it's not pronounced the way I expected based on the spelling. Someone should definitely add pronunciation guidance to this article! Charolastra charolo ( talk) 21:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)