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Hi, I don't know if this page belongs on Wikipedia or not, so I welcome any opinions to the contrary. I thought, however, that the music section of Capoeira was lacking without a few example songs.
Feel free to add more songs. Try to keep the list alphabetized and the formatting the same throughout. If when you open the edit page and it tells you that the page has become too large, post here. This will never pretend to be an exhaustive list, however, so the page should not be allowed to get too big.
-- Asbestos 13:00, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
If anyone has a sheet music program that could be used to make an image of the toques, that would be very helpful. I haven't found a non-copyrighted image on the web, and hesitate to try to write it clearly using ASCI.
Examples of toques can be found at [1] (4 languages)and [2]
-- Asbestos 14:59, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Great work on this page, Asbestos. With regards to whether it is appropriate for Wikipedia as it is now, I firmly believe that it is, but have a few comments:
as far as i know, it's an erroneous (yet common) version of "abalou cajoeira abalou", the cajo tree shook. I'm not sure so I'm not deleting it.
I reworked this page to include more specific information about the music. I also got rid of the toques section and linked it to the berimbau page because there is much more info there. If anyone has anything else to add, go for it.
Jmckaskle 19:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
The lyrics provided are public domain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmckaskle ( talk • contribs) 19:42, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
I've added more on melody (both vocal melody and berimbau melody) and information about syncopation and improvisation in the music and how the supporting instruments work together to lay a rhythmic foundation.
Jmckaskle 01:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
The musical characterizations were a great help to me. I do find references to toadas in capoeira literature, and recordings in many places, yet there is no mention of toadas here. A brief characterization of toadas by someone trained in music would, I believe, not be out of place. translator ( talk) 22:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
This counts are JUST SO WRONG, both the person who posted the first counts, and also the one who is trying to correct him. What you are calling BEATS, as the high sound, played in the Angola rhythm, are actually OFFBEATS. The correct signature for angola goes as such: [1 2 and 3 4 and], where:
1 = silence or caxixi
2 = low sound (dom)
and = high sound (dim)
3 = silence again
4 = low sound again (dom)
and = high sound again (dim)
Ps- note im not writng the (TCH TCH) sound of the coin on the wire, which are, respectivly, on the the third and fourth 1/4 notes of beat 1 and 3. Im keeping only the two main sounds (dom dim)
Im writing as an active capoeirista, graduated Mestre by Mestre Marrom, from Rio, with a long career and experience with all the big mestres in Brazil, from different styles, such as mestre Peixinho, Suassuna, Boca Rica, Bigodinho etc.
As a capoeirista-musician I produced, recorded and played in ground-breaking capoeira cds such as Marrom capoeira, Mestre Boca Rica e Bigodinho and Mestre Claudio from Feira de Santana and Felipe de Santo Amaro.
I developed a project called MUSICAPOEIRA, dedicated to capoeira music. You can get an ideia here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ferraduramusicapoeira/
I suggest you to read RAMIRO MUSSOTO's definitive work on berimbau, with the right notation:
G934h Guerra, Sérgio Garcia Hereros / Sérgio Garcia Guerra. – – Salvador: Edições Maianga, 2009. 260 p. : il. ; 30 x 30cm + 1 CD-ROM, com músicas captadas nas províncias angolanas do Namibe e Cunene. Textos em português e inglês. ISBN 978-85-88543-46-1 1. Fotografias. 2. Hereros (Povo africano) – Obras ilustradas. 3. Etnologia - Hereros (Povo africano) – Obras ilustradas. I. Título. CDD: 779
If you just take time to listen to capoeira songs, you will see that every 4/4 bar repeats the angola pattern twice, also in MPB its the same. Check Gilberto Gils Parabolicamara:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3e1S2UGHA0
Well, hope it helps and you edit the article. Im happy to respond to any email: [email protected]
OMRI FERRADURA BREDA
Omriferra ( talk) 19:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
This counts are JUST SO WRONG, both the person who posted the first counts, and also the one who is trying to correct him. What you are calling BEATS, as the high sound, played in the Angola rhythm, are actually OFFBEATS. The correct signature for angola goes as such: [1 2 and 3 4 and], where: 1 = silence or caxixi 2 = low sound (dom) and = high sound (dim) 3 = silence again 4 = low sound again (dom) and = high sound again (dim) Ps- note im not writng the (TCH TCH) sound of the coin on the wire, which are, respectivly, on the the third and fourth 1/4 notes of beat 1 and 3. Im keeping only the two main sounds (dom dim) Im writing as an active capoeirista, graduated Mestre by Mestre Marrom, from Rio, with a long career and experience with all the big mestres in Brazil, from different styles, such as mestre Peixinho, Suassuna, Boca Rica, Bigodinho etc. As a capoeirista-musician I produced, recorded and played in ground-breaking capoeira cds such as Marrom capoeira, Mestre Boca Rica e Bigodinho and Mestre Claudio from Feira de Santana and Felipe de Santo Amaro. I developed a project called MUSICAPOEIRA, dedicated to capoeira music. You can get an ideia here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ferraduramusicapoeira/ I suggest you to read RAMIRO MUSSOTO's definitive work on berimbau, with the right notation: G934h Guerra, Sérgio Garcia Hereros / Sérgio Garcia Guerra. – – Salvador: Edições Maianga, 2009. 260 p. : il. ; 30 x 30cm + 1 CD-ROM, com músicas captadas nas províncias angolanas do Namibe e Cunene. Textos em português e inglês. ISBN 978-85-88543-46-1 1. Fotografias. 2. Hereros (Povo africano) – Obras ilustradas. 3. Etnologia - Hereros (Povo africano) – Obras ilustradas. I. Título. CDD: 779
If you just take time to listen to capoeira songs, you will see that every 4/4 bar repeats the angola pattern twice, also in MPB its the same. Check Gilberto Gils Parabolicamara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3e1S2UGHA0 Well, hope it helps and you edit the article. Im happy to respond to any email: [email protected] OMRI FERRADURA BREDA
Omriferra ( talk) 19:59, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I think the musical counts are described incorrectly in these wikipedia pages. The three successive claps, which corresponds to the atabaque and pandeiro) are 3-4-1. So, the berimbau ch-ch are the 1/8th notes of the 2nd beat. I submit the following two songs for consideration since they have non-traditional capoeira instruments accompaniment: Pedir o Axé and Noite da Suadade. The lyrics of both the call and response come in on the one, which I contend is the last of the three successive claps. For the Angola toque, the shake of the caxixi would be the 1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.62.53 ( talk) 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
What is the source for the notation for the Angola and São Bento Grande toques? Using half notes in place of quarter notes is confusing for anyone who knows how to read music. If no one objects, I'll write out them out in proper notation. Focomoso ( talk) 06:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
I'm making a recommendation/request to mention a relevant usage the Capoeira Music in the Heavy Metal. The justification is the exemplification of alternative usages of the Capoeira Music.
It could be listed as "Capoeira in Popular Culture"; although (for my example below) it seems more natural to include list it as an example of "Folk Metal" but this one is commonly accepted to refer to Europe heavy metal: "Folk metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal music that developed in Europe during the 1990s. As the name suggests, the genre is a fusion of heavy metal with traditional folk music."
The most notable example of Capoeira in Heavy Metal comes from the Brazilian Heavy Metal Band "Sepultura", Capoeira is sometimes included in their songs adding an very distinctive tone that identifies the band comes from Brazil, for example: Attitude (Sepultura Song).
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.179.71.200 ( talk) 02:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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