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It wasn't. Honestly, it wasn't. I've watched that scene over and over again. Ran it several times to check it out. I can see where the grunting sounds of the Nestene Consciousness could be interpreted as the phrase "Bad Wolf" if you do the aural equivalent of squinting, but it's not. The clearest reason why not is because when the Nestene Consciousness does say an audible phrase, "Time Lord," that's clear as anything. Why would that phrase be so clear and yet "Bad Wolf" be muffled and nearly unintelligible - particularly since RTD has been sledgehammering us over the head with the Bad Wolf references? It doesn't make sense. -- khaosworks 07:03, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
Not to insert a huge spoiler or anything, but in episode 3 a boy spray paints "bad wolf" onto the tardis; the moment it is alleged that the nestene says bad wolf is also the moment that it sees the tardis and goes psycho.
Well, I think this is pretty definitive. The BBC site www.badwolf.org.uk/clues.html shows "Bad Wolf" references for every story except "Rose". -- DudeGalea 12:12, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Was there a reference? I didn't catch one. -- DudeGalea 20:18, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I notice khaosworks has updated the Bad Wolf article to point out that it was used on a poster. Well spotted; I didn't catch that one. DudeGalea 22:22, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
If I was taking a guess, I would say it would refer to the Doctor, based on his comments on the extinction of the rest of his race (just a guess, and I'm most likely wrong)
Suspects for the Bad Wolf - If the 'Bad Wolf' is a person, who?
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The Doctor: Has been accused of spreading 'death' everywhere he goes. The clues seem to lean far more for Rose than him. Was surprised in 'Boom Town' to see the latest reference yet suddenly shugged it off. Is the Doctor even who he claims to be?
Rose: The Doctor seems very certain on traveling with her. The clues only started to appear following her entry into the TARDIS, the first time in a long while that the 'Doctor' has had a companion. Rose has certainly lost much of her navity since her first appearance.
Mickey: Disgrunted with Rose in Boom Town, and reappears in Bad Wolf. His website is very researched and he hasn't gone to any lengths to tell Rose about it.
Jackie: Might be hiding something from Rose and the Doctor. If so, what? Also appears in Bad Wolf.
Jack Harkness: What happened in those missing two years of his life? Has he perhaps met the 'Doctor' before?
Adam: Knows the forthcoming history of the next 200,000 years at the end of The Long Game. Knew the Doctor via Mickey's website yet seemed unaware a mere six years later in Dalek. Did Adam use his knowledge to change history in order to keep himself alive, and bring the Daleks back to life? Is he the mysterious white figure seen in the Bad Wolf Teaser? Rumour even has it that Adam is strangely begining to seem like someone the Doctor knows very well... A figure who has a cybernetic implant turned into a third eye...
Van Statten: Like Mickey and Adam he should be even more aware of the Doctor - he owns the internet! Was erasing his memory a good idea - he might have known something important...
Clive: Oh yes. He might be dead, but he's not ruled out. The clues only started following his death. Original owner of the Who is Doctor Who website. Warned Rose about the Doctor. Despite his website he seems unaware of the other 'Doctors' lurking about in Earth's history.
The Editor: Since the forthcoming episode is set on Satellite 5, is the Editor still alive? Could he be perhaps both the 'Bad Wolf' and the strange white figure?
The Daleks: Could it be as simple as the Doctor's oldest enemy? They certainly fit the 'Wolf' catagory.
What about the Master? He might stil be alive in the TARDIS. Revenant Lord
Admittedly unlikely speculations:
K-9: Well, he is at least sort-of a dog, which is sort-of a wolf...
Norman Lovett: Getting his own back because of the Davros rumour.
Credible:
Bad Wolf TV: I think this is probably the most likely, seeing as one of Satellite 5's TV stations is called Bad Wolf TV, and we already know that the Bad Wolf episode will involve a TV station on Sat 5. -- DudeGalea 12:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well, now we know! --
DudeGalea 18:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What I'm curious about is why "Bad Wolf"? What's the esoteric reference? if you will. Why "Bad Wolf" and not, say, "Happy Cow" (that's for you Californians) or "Ill-mannered Marmot"? I understand the function of the phrase within the context of the story (I don't think it references any character specifically, just MHO), what I want to understand is the motivation of the creative choice. 76.204.192.138 ( talk) 05:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't recall any of Rose's family or Mickey. I've restrained from editing the main article in case I'm mistaken. (I also suspect someone will do a big re-write any time now.) -- Billpg 19:55, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now after all the argument about Bad Wolf, who knows why the numbers 23, 6 and 801 keep appearing throughout the series?
e.g. Psalms for church service in Father's Day, bus numbers on bus stop, date in Dr Constantine's diary, Geocomtex phone number, and an entry in the 'whoisdoctorwho' website.
Hat tip to http://www.relativedimensions.co.uk/badwolf.html . (And there are a few other interesting tidbits on that page.)
-- DudeGalea 20:49, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Here's a bit of speculation.
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The people have been transmatted to the ships for years and years and years -- what happened to them? Secondly, where did all the Daleks come from? Speculation . . . cf.
Revelation of the Daleks.
DonQuixote 00:45, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Or: the communications satellite and the Doctor have created an alternative reality, and the Daleks can exist in that AR.
The simplest answer is often the best. Cf. The Parting of the Ways. DonQuixote 04:31, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The running theme (as distinct from a running gag) is an interesting idea - even if the characters will not be aware of all the references.
speculation or based on something concrete? Tim! ( talk) 09:10, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
It's hugely insignificant, but if the spelling isn't in the Compact OED should we really be using it? The AskOxford site does have "foetus" as an alternative ("Brit. (non-technical use)) spelling of "fetus" (the primary entry, even in the UK edition of the site), but it doesn't have the adjectival form "foetal" (with or without the ligature). It might be one of those adjectival oddities like "humorous". — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 02:38, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone please tell me what the track is playing when the Doctor first arrives in the Big Brother house at the very beginning and also when he is evicted? I've tried Googling, without any success. DAJF 14:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
The Big Brother Theme Tune?? ATMarsden Whadda ya want? 18:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ATMarsden ( talk • contribs)
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