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There is a lot of bias throughout the biography. For example, "The play the part rather well" is a very biased statement and the description of the guitar playing as "very techical" shows a slight bias as well. More bias exist in describing the band "more poetic and existential" than other death metal bands and describing their delivery as "unique and carefully-measured". I will add a neutrality message box until these biases are resolved. TheUnionBlood 05:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I personally don't agree with this point of view, though the phrase 'They play the part rather well' is confusing. The reputation of Assuck is well founded and I have yet to come across anyone who would disagree with the description of them. I would like to know where the text originates from though. Jamiex13x ( talk) 16:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Reviewing Anticapital (emphasis mine): "Whilst Misery Index may be, dare we say it too death metal and perhaps even a touch overrated, the Floridian crusties' fiercely politicised death/grind debut LP (fifteen songs in seventeen minutes) is a low-calibre battery of brooding, malicious, doom-ridden grind pitched somewhere between early Napalm Death and even earlier Bolt Thrower." Please don't remove sourced content; that constitutes vandalism. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 15:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Steve H., I don't know if other articles receive this much scrutiny--let's hope that they do. Drmies ( talk) 03:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
The "punk" classification was not added "only to make a point." Assuck was primarily a punk band. We played punk venues in America, Europe, and the US. We toured with punk and grindcore bands exclusively. Our shows were nothing like your "death metal" shows. Besides a different kind of musicianship and lyricism, Assuck had a DIY ethos that "death metal" completely lacks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveheritage ( talk • contribs) 12:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
And, let's not hope other articles receive this much scrutiny. For some reason the two of you are bent on calling this band "death metal." You have some sort of crusade. Yet if you were truly into this music you would know that Assuck is not death metal -- based on simple comparison with bands that are well-known as death metal acts, or knowledge of different kinds of music, or knowledge of the kind of band that Assuck was (especially our politics). Basically, the comparison is valid only in terms of musicianship and some elements of style, like deep vocals and double-kick. You cite some article from "Terrorizer" (a lame fanzine) as "verifiable proof" that this band is what you claim? Your other "verifiable sources" do not check out. You all should become more familiar with the different kinds of hardcore and metal before launching such a crusade. Maybe you could speak with a least a modicum of authority if you were actually around when the bands you write of were playing. Obviously you were not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveheritage ( talk • contribs) 12:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Apparently there is some controversy here and some legitimate former members have been deleted. Are there are sources for these supposed former members? To be honest, it would be massively helpful to find a decent biography in a reliable source, and a bunch of interviews would be handy too. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 11:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
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