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(that sort of solves the contradiction problem too..)
There is information enough in the sources to expand the article., but it needs to be written not copied..
Oranjblud (
talk) 01:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)reply
The article might have been more comprehensive if you have not cleared that stuff out. As it is, the content is negligible and a proprer article needs writing.
I do not know how to access and add to the reflist. Please could someone more knowledgeable add a link to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZqsdOEdUuA which is a Bombardier promotional video dated October 2013
papermaker (
talk) 10:16, 1 January 2014 (UTC)reply
Here is the relevant quote from the provided source, available on
PressReader:
"The document also shows that the five-car sets were to be classified as Class 705s, while the ten-car trains were to be ‘711s’. Instead, these will be ‘701s’, and the ten Aventras ordered for c2c will be Class 711s."
With Alstom's purchase of Bombardier Transportation, should this page be renamed to Alstom Aventra?
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Enotayokel (
talk) 11:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)reply
I think it's far too early to say what will happen with the branding of Bombardier business unit or their products. Is there any indication that Litchurch Lane and it's products will change name? As that would be the trigger for considering changing the name of the article. Though given that Aventras were designed and a large number introduced under the Bombardier brand there's reason to keep the existing title.
Qazwsx777 (
talk) 12:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)reply
We don't know what Alstom has planned for Bombardier's products, and it's far too early to change the title of this article. Bombardier will build the trains that they are contracted to do so, and then we'll have to see what happens in future. Anything else would be
WP:CRYSTAL.
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Enotayokel: - until we have references that new trains (701, 720, 730) are being branded Alstom instead of Bombardier - the existing manufacturer should be left. In future, we may want to edit this article similar to something like
Bombardier Incentro - which talks about the history of the model being designed by
Adtranz before its purchase by Bombardier. As above, that would have to be referenced. But that's a edit for another, future time.
Turini2 (
talk) 12:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)reply
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Enotayokel: Alstom are marketing the Aventra as an Alstom product on their website; I think now is the time to change the article name. Look
here. --
Doomotron (
talk) 19:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Support, but preserve the current name until the new hydrogen units (or an Aventra under Alstom) is built.
XtraJovial (
talk) 07:18, 12 January 2022 (UTC)reply
That's not surprising, but WP should wait until another
WP:RS, such as an rail operating company, is found which uses "Alstom" rather than "Bombardier".
Bazza (
talk) 08:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)reply
"I feel that my edit to
Alstom Aventra is benificial as the previous image was of a variant that looks nothing like the other ones.
EJD799 (
talk) 19:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)"reply
In response, I direct you to
MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE - I do think you can argue that the 730 doesn't look like the majority of Aventras delivered, however the photo you
proposed was not an improvement. Maybe find one that we all can agree is better?
Turini2 (
talk) 20:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Why is it "not an improvement"?
EJD799 (
talk) 19:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The photo you proposed - quite a dark image, it's very nearly head on (so you can't see the livery of the train) and it could be cropped a little tighter. For example, the image on the
Class 345 page is a much better photo of that train.
Turini2 (
talk) 08:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
EJD799 We're supposed to be discussing photos so we can find consensus? It's best not to change things when discussions are ongoing.
Turini2 (
talk) 08:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply