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The sentence "Brooke’s focus was primarily on the European theatre of operations." Should be "Brooke's focus was primarily on the Mediterranean theatre of operations." He was consistently opposed to operations both in NW Europe, Southern France, and the Cross Channel attack, generally. "War Diaries, 1939*1945 Field Marshal Lord Alanbrooke" Danchev and Todman (editors) University of California Press, c.1957, 1959, 2001. pgs 419-420 specifically and throughout.
Thomas9070 (
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He was also a noted ornithologist; I'll dig out some material, unless someone else can do so more quickly.
Andy Mabbett 23:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)reply
I will try to add some material on his interest in ornithology. Sometimes during breaks from his work as CIGS he used visit book stores in search for rare bird books. For financial reasons he was forced to sell some of his bird books after the war. I also hope to add more material on his impact on Allied strategy, his war diaries, references and footnotes. I am quite new to editing Wikipedia so please comment on my progress as well as my grammar (English is not my native tongue... ) Cheers!
Charlemagne72 22:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Have now added info on his love for birds. Now I think we need some proper references and footnotes! /Charlemagne 17:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
France 1940
Have added a reference to Brooke's famously scathing view of the French army i 1939-40, though sadly I don't have the complete quote in front of me. It's perfectly well-known, but the interesting question is: was it written at the time or with hindsight? —Preceding
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171.192.0.10 (
talk) 16:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Actually it is quite evident from reading the war diaries that this view was not fabricated afterwards.
Charlemagne72 (
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Criticism
This article smacks too much of court history. Who says that he is "one of the chief architects of the Allies' victory in 1945"? That's ok if Roosevelt and Stalin had expressed anything like it but alas the historical record doesn't seem to contain such references. A sober reading of Brooke's career reveals a timid, mediocre general with a very high opinion of himself. Flattering accounts are inevitably based on his own account.
Richardwinter (
talk) 09:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)reply
"Architects" has now been removed. I believe the original sentence said "... sachitects of the Allies' vicotory in the west" I will shortly try to make a moore balanced view on Brooke.
Charlemagne72 (
talk) 14:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Sorry I'm not good at posting here but want to help. In the last paragraph of "War Diaries" it says "One reason why Alanbrooke (as he had become) changed his mind was the lack of credit to him and the Chiefs of Staff in Churchill's own war memoirs which essentially presented their ideas and innovations as his own." It seems to me that it should say "presented his ideas ... as their own". Thanks hope this helps. —Preceding
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98.252.65.65 (
talk) 05:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Likewise "When Churchill’s many fanciful strategic ideas collided with sound military strategy it was only Brooke on the Chiefs of Staff Committee who was able to stand up to the Prime Minister." is straight out of The Turn of the Tide; and Jones (of Most Secret War) is scathing about Alanbrooke on their one meeting.
Pinkbeast (
talk) 02:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)reply
" ... is scathing about Alanbrooke on their one meeting" - it was perhaps unwise of Jones to judge a person on the basis of one meeting.
Churchill was prone to getting "a bee in his bonnet" about his own ideas on military strategy and Alanbrooke was one of the few people whom Churchill respected enough to be able to be dissuaded by him. Sometimes the ideas proposed by Churchill weren't bad, per se, but the military resources were simply not available to carry them out. As CIGS Alanbrooke was in a position to know when this was the case, whereas some of the other people advising Churchill may not have been. Churchill was aware of this.— Preceding
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95.149.173.52 (
talk) 09:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
«In 1952 both Churchill and Beaverbrook threatened legal action against a biography of Stanley Baldwin». I think they were Churchill and Alanbrooke, or the sentence makes little sense. — Preceding
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Why is his ethnic makeup a secret? — Preceding
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Because we in Britain don't much care what a person's "ethnic makeup" is, we try not to let such things matter.
BTW, I think what you are referring to is what we here call a
sun tan. — Preceding
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It doesn't matter what you in Britain care about. It is supposed to be an encyclopedia and ethnic heritage is commonly reported for all parties' entries.
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Does anyone know why he chose to combine his first name and surname into his title? It's an unusual thing to do -- are there any other examples of people doing this?
cagliost (
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It was to keep the name Alan Brooke alive, and to distinguish it from any other Lords Brooke. I think it's mentioned in Philip Ziegler's biography of Mountbatten (Mountbatten chose "Mountbatten of Burma" rather than being simply "of Burma" to keep the Mountbatten name, as the title was to be inherited by his daughter, whose surname changed on marriage).
Duncan Sandys did much the same thing for his life peerage, as there was already a
Lord Sandys, and also
George Brown.
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