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19:56, 17 November 2006 I added complete filmography table to this article. It was removed almost immediately. Because collecting the list, formating and properly linking the movies takes me several hours, I would like to ask, why this was removed to help me better aim my effort in the future. -- Loskutak 10:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
i have removed all the images existing in the article and i have replced them with 1 pic that i feel is classic.regarding the removed images,i felt they were out of place.however a great scent of a woman pic would be welcomed. Msreeharsha 20:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
i put back all the images because it portrays his whole career, from the 70s to 90s. i dont think they are out of place since pacino has played many different roles than the godfather and omiting them would be an oversight.
hmmm...ok...cool....but could ne one please load a scent of a woman pic...he won an oscar for that goddamn movie!!!!
what about reviews/synopsis of movies? is that out of sync with wikipedia I like how his picture is a mugshot :) How about a real picture - maybe something of him after he became famous Could somebody replace that mugshot with a still of Al from "The Godfather"? After all, that was his big break as well as his most famous role.
Note that edits inserting supposed information about "Marc Tufano" are vandalism and should be reverted on sight. This has affected multiple articles ( Robert De Niro, The Beatles, etc. etc.) -- Curps 18:43, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm wondering if Pacino's mugshot at 21 is really appropriate for this article. If so, there should be some elaboration as to his alleged crime and past. - AWF
There's info on his arrest here here here The third one provides the most info I think.
This is the page dedicated to his biography and the arrest is one event in his life and nothing to be ashamed of. It tells us more about his passion and determination for acting. I think the picture should be reinstalled, otherwise the page becomes an ordinary fan page. sergeji
If this is done in order to safeguard Al Pacino's name, feelings, family and reputation, (especially from anybody who enjoys defaming or looks for dirt) then I agree with you.-- Sergeji ( talk) 00:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Does anybody have a citation for the fact that Al's father was born in Corleone? Can't seem to find any references to this - a couple of places mention his grandparents coming from there but nothing about his father.
Actualy he said it was his grandfather James Gerardi.-- 85.18.81.137 ( talk) 00:21, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
"regarded as one of the greatest in film history" This is removed for lacking citations. Shawnc 12:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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Was this written by his agent? This entry seems to heap on the praise a little too thickly. There should be some regard to Pacino's complete late of subtlety in his more recent performances -- he's become a cartoon of himself. And it's not like he hasn't had his share of flops either. Gigli? Simone? City Hall? Cruising? There was also a huge six year gap in his career in the 80s where he only made one movie between Scarface and Sea of Love. -- Navstar 12:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
is that a joke or what? from where does that come from?
Dear 71.109.27.88; Why did you remove the initial synopsis? I see you merged some of its content with the following paragraph, but it no longer follows common layout guidelines for a biographical wiki. Just curious. And a couple of the new links (Citrus??) are weak, but those may have been there before you modified it.
oh sorry, citrus is a place in california, i live around there that's why. i guess i didnt check it.
Happily bottom-posted and signed,
Dondello 16:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
"Pacino suffered from a throat disorder in the mid-1980s which forced to him stop smoking cigarettes. Notice in Sea of Love, he sounded noticibly different, featuring his now-famous dark, owly eyes and hoarse, deep voice."
"Stopped a 2-pack-a-day smoking habit in 1994 to protect his voice. He now only occasionally smokes herbal cigarettes. "
so umm, last I checked, 1994 wasn't in the mid-1980s.. unless the throat disorder only made him stop in '94? Lovok 12:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
This article needs a new main picture of Pacino, as people are too thick headded to see what movie its really from (The Godfather), and what movie its not from (Scarface).
-cleaned up misspellings and bad grammar. edited sentence structure in a few places to improve ease of readability. Added the comment on "Heat". generally tried to glisten it up a little. Stevewk 00:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
-minor touch-up. Stevewk 23:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
The trivia section repeats a lot of the information earlier in the piece and it states things that may be semi interesting, but more seem like padding. Any objections to weeding this section down? Pnkrockr 17:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- added "Me, Natalie" snippet; echo trivia cleanup...to your heart's content. Stevewk 19:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
-repositioned the "Heat" photo, it looks like, successfully. Stevewk 19:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's cut this section down to size, it's larger than most articles, and while some of it is interesting, alot of it is absolutely useless fan-cruft, and unencyclopedic Zerak-Tul 22:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
-added mention of above under "Personal Life." Stevewk 16:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
There are no sources claiming he is dead. Either someone is having a little fun, or this is news. Can someone verify?
FUCK YOU! PACINO WILL NEVER DIE!-- Tainted Drifter 05:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Pacino's the 2nd best of all time. De Niro is the first. They each have so many classic movies.-- Tainted Drifter 05:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
When in Boston during late 72 or 73, he was playing at the Circle Theater (I think) in either Arturo Ui or the Basic Training of Pavlo Hummel. Regardless after the play, I waited for him to exit the theatre so that I could get his autograph (which I did) and Jill was with him then. There was some written interest about their relationship during that time but it seems as though that has been completely dropped from his past as has his relationship(s) with Diane Keaton. Just wanted to point these out for those who truly want to know as much about the man as possible.
Alright so the Godfather: tHE GAME page states Al Pacino turned down the role because he objected the fact the movie was being made along with the director of TG. However this article states he turned it down because his voice changed, so which is it? -- Elven6 21:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
The Whole thing with the
godfather
game is
Bullcrap!!!!!
I think he should have just done the
stupid
game!
It would have been much better!
Michael Corleone only has a few
lines anyway!
"Inches Speech from ANY GIVEN SUNDAY" - deserves a mention, don't you think? Probably the best speech from a sports movie. Arguably one of the greatest movie speeches ever. It was that good and captured the essence of the genius that is Al Pacino !
what do u all think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.105.124.181 ( talk) 16:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
Is there a reason he's called Picasso under the pictures and in some of the text? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deathugee ( talk • contribs) 16:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC).
I've tried editing some.But the more I edit,it looks like the Picasso keeps appearing.
216.76.204.41 02:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
In 1961, Pacino was arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, but the charges were later dropped. He told the police he was on his way to an acting job and needed the weapon for the skit. He was 21-years-old when this mug shot was taken.
link: http://crime.about.com/library/blpacinoal.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.199.253.206 ( talk) 01:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC).
Fans of The Godfather may wish to participate in the AfD debate concerning whether the article The Godfather films in popular culture, which was spun off from this article to keep it from being too unwieldy, should be deleted. That debate can be found here. The article in question provides a place for people to note instances which illustrate the continuing influence of The Godfather and its sequels on films, TV shows and other popular culture media. Ed Fitzgerald 00:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Where was he born? -- Cantalamessa 22:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
In the current edition of Entertainment Weekly (week of 04/14/08, with Tina Fey on the cover), it states that he was born in Bronx, NY. 24.189.35.249 ( talk) 00:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Has any information from his appearance on the above been added to the article? I couldn't see any reference to it. For example, during the interview he says began as a stand-up comic in The Village. - Dudesleeper · Talk 01:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Well done, perfection.
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The current main picture lacks a source, it merely states that it's a fan photo from the S1m0ne set, but the photographer isn't mentioned. I found this picture on Flickr which can be used for free (when properly sourced and reframed slightly). Has anybody any objections against this, or knows of a better picture, or the source of the current one? mensch • t 15:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I object. Desiganmer ( talk
I don't see how photo quality is proof that it's not a fan photo. Given that i haven't seen it elsewhere, I'm inclined to believe it is ,until proof (not suspicion) is found that it's not usable. Quite frankly, the 'fan photo' is a much nicer image. Yankee.doodle.666 00:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
The current photo is unusable, because it isn't sourced, see the notice on the image page itself. The image should either be attributed correctly and get a fair use rationale, or be replaced with something else. It doesn't matter whether it's a nice picture or not, legally speaking this image can't be used in the article right now. mensch • t 00:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Here is the proof you wanted. The image is a cropped image taken from iMDB, which is not a free source. Picture is here. mensch • t 00:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Thats AL in what, 2005/04 when that movie was made. Not 2007.
Is it just me or did someone else hear that Al was going to step into legendary painter Salvador Dali's shoes in the upcoming film "Dali and I: The surreal story". the film is set for a 2007 release.
The phrase "confirmed bachelor" used to be a code for homosexual, which I don't think was meant here. Unless he has regularly stated that he does not believe in the institution of marriage (and even then, the fact he has had several long term girlfriends makes the term blurred), I am not sure that we can say anything apart from just report that he never married. -- Beardo 03:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
His rivalry with fellow Oscar winner Dustin Hoffman is well documented
I pulled this from his personal life, what's up? they don't get along?
Someone has vandalised the section under the sub-head 80s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.0.52 ( talk) 13:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
"With his box office earnings relatively modest of late, Pacino looks to be gearing up with several new projects. He starred in Steven Soderbergh’s Ocean's Thirteen alongside George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Andy Garcia as the villain Willy Bank, a casino tycoon who is targeted out of revenge by Danny Ocean and his crew."
Given that this movie earned over $100 million in the U.S. alone, the first sentence is clearly inaccurate. If noone objects, i will edit the paragraph to be less opinionated and innacurate. (I'll wait a week for replies) 125.238.124.197 05:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
i was wondering if anyone knows what his total lifetime earnings are from his movies? i know its high but i want to know how high —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.244.251 ( talk) 05:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Just made a minor change to the statement saying that the movie "88 Minutes" is going to be released in 2008. This is true for the US, although it is known that it has already been released in many other areas in the year of 2007; so, I adjusted the wording to make it more accurate. -- Wnb0518 ( talk) 19:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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I was just wondering if anyone knew if he has had a relationship with an African American woman in the past? I wonder; is he interested in dating women of other nationalities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.187.0 ( talk) 18:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just deleted a paragraph from the "Personal Life" section where a number of Pacino's romantic relationships were mentioned. Unfortunately none of them had references of any kind, so they need to go according to policy on
biographies of living people. I acknowledge that his relationships may be notable (and most of what I deleted is probably true), but without references from reliable sources misinformation or libel could sneak in. My edit removing this content is
here. If you can provide references for any specific relationships, please re-add them with appropriate citations.
BlckKnght (
talk) 00:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
A lot of the details of that paragraph were incorrect (for instance, he dated Clayburgh from '65-'72, not '70-'75 according to Andrew Yules Pacino biography "life on the wire", so its removal was certainly warranted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.182.58 ( talk) 03:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 07:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Some idiot keeps putting death notices on here.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.120.136 ( talk) 18:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure he's not right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.134.109.104 ( talk) 18:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
On the series The Critic Al Pacino is featured constantly saying "Hoo-Ha", what movie are they referencing? Sarujo ( talk) 07:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Ive noticed a little mistake: if he was arrested on January 7, 1961, he was 20 years old (he has birthsday in April... haha)
I saw that some sites report that he was paid only 15.000 dollars for Serpico. Impossible that he got paid less than in The Godfather. Could it be 150.000 ? Does anybody know better ? Sergeji
I'd like to know who checks the article and rewrite it deleting referenced facts _ thanks! _ sergeji -- 85.18.81.137 ( talk) 15:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
general homepage links : it took me a while to put the full address/link but then i succeeded. It was not me who used peacock words and terms or put "about Diane Keaton's opinion of his face" but why 'unfortunately' is an inappropriate word ? sergeji-- Sergeji ( talk) 17:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
But if you use it in a sentence like this: "unfortunately the play was not successful" or "unfortunately the play was panned by the critics" ? sergeji-- Sergeji ( talk) 18:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, now i got it: only neutral referenced facts! May I ask 'you' something ? I'm new to Wikipedia and they told me there's no administrator for this article but it looks like you are checking everything and make sure that everything follows the site rules: do you work for wikipedia or you do it for hobby ? Sorry for asking: just out of curiosity. I'm trying to understand how it works. And there's a way to know how many people contribute to an article ? sergeji-- Sergeji ( talk) 21:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!-- Sergeji ( talk) 22:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
The article reads: "His father moved to Covina, California, working as an insurance salesman and owner of his own restaurant called Pacino's Lounge, which closed down in 1992. Pacino attended a school officially named The School of Performing Arts: A Division of the Fiorello H La Guardia High School of Music and the Arts in New York City, the main school of which was attended by fellow Godfather II actor Robert De Niro.[8] But, he flunked nearly all of his classes except English and he dropped out of school at the age of seventeen".
- My question is who is the "he". Is it Deniro who dropped out or Pacino? This should be written more clearly. I suggest not beginning the sentence with the word "But". ````
I put Pacino's name to make things clear (just for the record: they both dropped out)-- Sergeji ( talk) 12:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
On the Vanity Fair March 2009 issue there is an article by Mark Seal called The Godfather Wars. It tells more or less stories that have been already reported by Harlen Lebo on his book 'The Godfather Legacy' with some interesting photos taken on the set. But more interesting are the photographs of Pacino and Lettieri. Apparently Al Lettieri (who played Virgil 'The Turk' Sollozzo in The Godfather) helped Pacino with the Italian dialogue. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/03/godfather-family200903 -- 85.18.81.137 ( talk) 14:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
The film "The Panic in Needle Park" was screened at the Film Forum in New York City on January 30,2009. After the screening the film director Jerry Schatzberg said that the producers did not want Pacino because they considered him too old for the role. On Time Out New York magazine Issue 695 (Jan 22–28, 2009), Schatzberg recalls the casting of the film: "I read the script very fast and couldn’t get with it, turned it down. But my business manager told me that Al Pacino was interested. I’d seen Al four years earlier onstage. He was so different—so dynamic. I related to him. You know, we come from different parts of the Bronx, but there’s still Bronx in both of us. And I thought, Boy, if I ever did a film, that’s the guy. So I said, “Wait a second, I gotta read this again.” Luckily, they gave me a second chance, but the producers didn’t want Pacino. Hated him. I told them that he was the whole reason I was back. They asked me to go through the process of casting, which we did. Robert De Niro came in to read, not that I actually considered him. He was great, sure, but I had already made up my mind. De Niro could play the part; Pacino was the part." http://www.filmforum.org/films/panic.html -- 85.18.81.137 ( talk) 22:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think this pic should be deleted. This shows how a recent Pacino looks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.231.32.248 ( talk) 14:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
the article suggests that the Charlie Laughton that taught Pacino acting was the famous actor Charles Laughton? Is that so, Charles Laughton died in 1962 in Hollywood at age 63, so was he really the man who was young Pacino's best friend? Not likely Tom Cod ( talk) 04:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
With all due respect this is a very important subject that matter us most.Al Pacino is one of the greatest actors of all time and the sources say that. THE SOURCES IS NOT SAYING HE IS THE BEST BUT THEY ARE SAYING THAT HE IS ONE OF THE BEST.THANKS http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfeatures/microsites/M/moviestars/results/results_05_01.jsp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/entertainment/1710770.stm http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-actors.asp http://www.best100actors.com/ http://movies.toptenreviews.com/actors/list_all_time_male_actor.htm
Ok this is the sources.Please note that CHANNEL4 and BBC are world wide known media.So have faith in them.And I bring no offence in this article.So help me.Best of luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.134.8.2 ( talk) 12:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Not sure how to work this in [1] but it would seem to be a noteworthy part of this esteemed actor's life. - Wikidemon ( talk) 09:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Is there sufficient justification to spin off the filmography (size 6052 bytes) that contains complete filmography, roles and awards won from an article that is only 26,260 bytes total?
The filmography did not take up that much room to merit a whole separate page. Now readers must go to a second page to find his credits? I agree with Lugnuts, maybe if an intro and more material went along with it, it would be fine. But just a table? Also Chowbok and Wildhartlivie please see WP:BATTLEGROUND and for the love of Mary and Joseph quit using Wikipedia as one. "Resist the temptation to change Wikipedia just to prove a point." Mike Allen 03:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Somebody please put in a guide to how his name is pronounced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.225.30.91 ( talk) 00:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I have just replaced the article content with what was on my sandbox. The only change is that his stage career has been gathered together into one section. Monkeymanman ( talk) 15:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Would some of you who have this and other actors pages watch listed help keep the non-notable awards out of them? There is an editor(s) who keeps returning them to the filmography table. Lately there have been some really minor ones added that I've never even saw or heard of. The help would be sincerely appreciated. The filmography should have the major awards added but not the minor ones esp. since most articles don't have sources for any of the awards listed. Thank you in advance to all and have a Happy & Healthy Holiday Season, -- CrohnieGal Talk 12:21, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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If you're looking for a second opinion on this review, I've had a look through it. Everything seems to check out alright. I'd like to see a sentence or two under the "awards" header summing up the major award he's received, but that's the only thing and it's very minor. If I was reviewing this article, I'd have passed it, but if you'd like another opinion, that's alright. GRAPPLE X 23:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Isn't Al Pacino starring in a new film version ok King Lear o be released soon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.208.48 ( talk) 15:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Although a rather small detail, I thought perhaps I could help. The last sentence within the introduction about him never marrying and having three children is seems trivial, and should probably be moved to a "Personal life" related section. It just seems out of place in the introduction. — Hucz ( talk · contribs) 01:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I noticed a small error in the first paragraph which says, "and as a lieutenant in Heat and in Scent of a Woman." I've corrected it to read: "as a police lieutenant in Heat and as an army lieutenant colonel in Scent of a Woman." This also keeps with the accuracy of the rest of the article. -Excellent article, btw! Bristus ( talk) 19:12, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a better picture of him. I know he is 72 but he looks very bad in that one.Considering he is one of America's top actor.Tra3535
I second the better photo, who chose this one anyway? -- Serge Zenin ( talk) 03:24, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.72.125 ( talk) 02:21, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
sonny sonny sonny long time no seee...... Santiago Santiago Santiago..:))) be cool...always... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.205.251.44 ( talk) 17:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Al Pacino's paternal line come from San Fratello (Sicily). Read this: OSIA National Office Administrative Assistant, Elisa Wilkinson, Italians & the Worldwide Human Web, 06/26/2012, and this Simonetta Trovato, Romina Arena, la siciliana che ha conquistato l'America, Il Giornale di Sicilia, 01/29/2012. And read this, it's an article of the most important Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera: [2]: " Quasi a metà strada tra Palermo e Messina, San Fratello ha dato i natali al nonno di Bettino Craxi e al nonno dell'attore statunitense Al Pacino. Il padre di Al Pacino più volte è tornato al paese d'origine della famiglia per vestire i panni tradizionali dei «giudei» che festeggiano la morte di Cristo". You can use Google Traslate if you don't understand Italian. Monkeymanman, why do you delete this information? -- Frereau ( talk) 09:39, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
This sentence requires clarification: "When he was two, his mother moved to the South Bronx near the Bronx Zoo, to live with her parents, Kate and James Gelardi, who originated from Corleone, Sicily.[2]" Now what does this mean? That both of Pacino's maternal grandparents emigrated from Corleone, or that their ancestors emigrated from Corleone? And no one "originates from" anywhere; people come from somewhere, or are originally from somewhere. Autodidact1 ( talk) 11:20, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Which Al Pacino awards should be included in this article (specifically in the awards section)? I am hoping to keep the GA status of the article however with many changes continually being made to the awards section it is not beneficial to readers. We should make a consensus on this. Monkeymanman ( talk) 12:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Updated Stage career section reference for Glengarry Glen Ross and removed "Pacino To Earn $125,000 Per Week In 'Glengarry'". npr. October 25, 2012., which may become relevant to future updates. JourneySarah ( talk) 05:51, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
What's Pacino's religion? Is he a Catholic? Is he a Jew? Is he a Satanist? Put it in the article please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.245.40.162 ( talk) 16:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I happen to agree with Gareth Griffith-Jones that the edits emphasizing the influence of Bregman are violations of WP:UNDUE and WP:SYNTH. I also think they may also be a violation of WP:BLP as synthetic speculation. So I reverted the second addition of this information. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 01:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
At the top of the article it says he has 4 children but in the biography section it says 3, which is it? 173.3.138.1 ( talk) 01:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
My removal of a set of em dashes was reverted, with the explanation that parentheses 'were not encouraged' in Wikipedia. While I understand that too many parenthetical phrases can spoil readability, so can purposely avoiding their use entirely in favor of em dashes. I'd point out that the latter is (grammatically-speaking) to be used quite sparingly.
Thoughts? -
Jack Sebastian (
talk) 21:38, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Al Pacino's grandfather's last name is spelled two different ways in the first few paragraphs of the article. 74.12.79.211 ( talk) 20:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
I propose the addition of years for sentences such as the following: "In addition to a career in film, he has enjoyed a successful career on stage, winning Tony Awards for Does a Tiger Wear a Necktie? (1969) and The Basic Training of Pavlo Hummel (1977)....Without the years, the reader doesn't get the sense of how these plays fit into his career. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 18:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
As is typical of such pages on Wikipedia, the authors here write as if composing a speech introducing the subject at the Academy Awards. It's unnecessary and adds no insight or value.
For example, the second sentence is unsupported by the source cited. I've changed it (pending "review" to reflect the content of the source, which in fact is a comparatively trivial phone-in poll by a British TV station wherein viewers "voted" that Pacino is "greatest actor of all time."
If one wanted to know who is the "greatest actor of all time" consulting such a poll would provide very little or no information. The question itself is a foolish one.
38.131.225.246 ( talk) 20:36, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
The description of the play "China Doll" is flawed to the point of being misleading. Reviews were not favorable, as the term "acclaimed" implies, but generally negative, both of the play itself and of his performance. MackyBeth ( talk) 00:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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The unneeded AKA "known professionally as Al Pacino," was removed from the opening sentence, and in its place Vaselineeeeeeee instituted "Alfredo James "Al" Pacino", with the edit summary "The issue isn't/shouldn't be whether readers will infer where the nickname comes from - rather that "Al" is not a known and sourced common hypocorism for the non-English name "Alfredo" - in that "Alfredo" is not the same as the English name "Alfred" when it comes to common hypocorisms used".
I don't think this is an appropriate reading of the relevant policy at MOS:HYPOCORISM, which reads:
It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name. If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name,[d] it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses into or after their name. Example:
- Tom Hopper's lead has simply: Thomas Edward Hopper.
and note d reads:
As a guide to what is a "common" hypocorism, consider consulting the Hypocorism#English subsections "Shortening, often to the first syllable" and "Addition of a diminutive suffix ..."; consider treating names listed in the "A short form that differs significantly from the name" subsection as non-hypocoristic nicknames, depending on the particular case. A few short forms that differ significantly from the name are well known common hypocorisms, such as "Bob" for "Robert", but most are not. Assume that most non-English hypocorisms (e.g. Lupita for Guadalupe and Mischa for Mikhail) are not familiar to readers of this English Wikipedia, even if well-known in their native culture.
This, to me is clear. Despite the personal/subjective view of Vaselineeeeeeee that "Al" is not a common or obvious hypocorism for "Alfredo", it objectively falls under the "Shortening, often to the first syllable" element. Also note that neither the list of Hypocorisms itself, nor the MOS where the list is mentioned, describe the list as a completely exhaustive compendium of all the hypocorisms in the English, or any language. It's just a guide and it's only suggested that one "consider" it.
The article name space, the title, the infobox, and any instances where his common full name are used should continue to say "Al Pacino" and wherever his birth full name are needed should read "Alfredo James Pacino". There is no need to shoehorn the obvious in, and say "Alfredo James "Al" Pacino" in any place on the article. It is akin to the example in the MOS of Tom Hopper. JesseRafe ( talk) 21:09, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes, "Shortening, often to the first syllable" for ENGLISH names - which Alfredo is not. That hypocorism tendency does not apply for non-English names.
Without a strong policy-based argument from anyone who supports including "Al" in the opening sentence that doesn't just boil down to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, this article should be placed on the Good article reassessment list for its MOS violations. JesseRafe ( talk) 22:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Although it is quite the portrait, it is a bit dated. Should we add a more recent photo of him? 76.187.211.251 ( talk) 07:01, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Considering Al Pacino's incredibly acclaimed career - do you think it would be appropriate to add a cited sentence in the lead saying something along the lines of "Considered one of the most influential actors of the 20th century" - like we do in the lead of Marlon Brando's article? The TIME Magazine article doesn't include Al Pacino - but sources considering Pacino to be one of the most influential and critically acclaimed actors of all time are extremely common. I feel like it is historically and culturally important for the significance of Pacino's career to be mentioned in the lead and possibly elaborated on elsewhere. 92.0.35.8 ( talk) 21:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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it says three children in two different places, but names four? Robertbenedict ( talk) 20:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
: From the personal life section: Pacino has three children. The eldest, Julie Marie (born 1989), is his daughter with acting coach Jan Tarrant. He has twins, son Anton James and daughter Olivia Rose (born January 25, 2001), with actress Beverly D'Angelo, with whom he had a relationship from 1997 until 2003. He has never been married. Three names. Where did you see the fourth? $chnauzer 21:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
The article in the personal life section from the Irish Independent "Irresistible allure of Pacino" includes Penelope Ann Miller among his partners so why isn't she included here considering she's a more noteworthy actor than many of the other women? There's even a personal quote from Miller about their relationship. Chronologically she's put after Lyndall Hobbs. The article also puts Clayburgh before Weld. Greenabean ( talk) 00:15, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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Tarrant should be removed from the infobox. Jill Clayburgh, Tuesday Weld and Marthe Keller should be added. "Partner" = living together and Pacino never cohabited with Tarrant, just fathered her kid. He did live with the others. Clayburgh from 1967-72, Weld 1972-73 and Keller 1976-78. Ieonine ( talk) 23:36, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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A suggested edit of Pacino almost starring in the 2013 animated film Despicable Me 2. 2603:7000:C53D:B386:2554:7635:117D:80C0 ( talk) 06:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)