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Obviously any military craft the president is flying in becomes "Air Force One" but is this a part of the AF1 fleet? ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea ☠ -
(T)(C) 08:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
It is a
Boeing C-32, which is a
757. See
this photo, and compare it to the image you linked to. The 757 can fly into smaller airports than a 747, which is the main limiting factor with the 747, not range as such. To my knowledge, the president flys on the 747 for even short hops like Washington DC to New York City. See the
Air Force One#Other presidential aircraft section of the article for more info on the use of other aircraft as AF1, and
this article on ABC for a full picture of the 757 at the event you mentioned. -
BilCat (
talk) 21:18, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Yes, C-32. Boeing 757 is mentioned in the linked article (C-32 is US military designation for 757-200). This does not seem like a big deal given other smaller aircraft have also been used by the President at times. -
Fnlayson (
talk) 21:26, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
News video and a documentary showed Obama being flown from Chicago to Washington for his first inauguration in 2009 and described him as flying on "Air Force One"; it was a C-32 not the VC-25 and it couldnt have been AF-1 since he wasnt President yet. Another example of the clueless media.
Bob80q (
talk) 05:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)reply
On some rare occasions the President also flies on a C-40 (737) or C-37 (Gulfstream). I seem to recall seeing TV footage of Obamas arrival for a summer vacation at Marthas Vineyard and he was deplaning from a C-40; they sometimes use smaller aircraft due to shorter runways and also out of concern for cost effectiveness.
Bob80q (
talk) 04:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)reply
VC-9C was another aircraft that served as a both an Air Force One but more commonly as an Air Force Two. This aircraft is rear engined and appears similar to a Super 80 model
[2]. It would be great to add more on this to the article. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
24.143.229.211 (
talk)
It's already in the article, but thanks anyway.
BilCat (
talk) 09:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Date format
The U.S. military indeed uses DMY format, but Air Force One is a subject that goes beyond the U.S. military, concerning the presidency. Articles relating to the presidenchy and the rest of the country uses MDY. Per
MOS:DATETIES, I believe this article should be in MDY. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 19:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
It's called "Air Force One", so I think it's logical to use the military format. However, if the consensus is to change to MDY format, that would be fine too, but it does need to be discussed here first per RETAIN. -
BilCat (
talk) 19:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
This falls under "articles on the modern U.S. military,... use day-before-month, in accordance with U.S. military usage." at MOS:DATETIES. -
Fnlayson (
talk) 20:21, 5 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Well this "technicality" BS is one of the main reasons why Wikipedia editorship is at its lowest level in years and why the website is down to just a few select "stewards" of the wiki. Most of us are just giving up under the constant arrogance.--
JOJHutton 02:15, 11 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Seconding
Muboshgu - the president is a civillian but one who uses military aircraft, and throughout the body, dates use conventional US style ("On October 11, 1910..."). This is also seen in
Air Force One photo op incident. In my eyes, I see it as a US government article. This is obviously not a hill to die on, I know.-Ich(
talk) 19:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)reply
The article should be consistent one way or the other. But to this point, there's been no consensus for changing to MDY. The issue in general is a contentious one on military articles, with many American editors being unaware of MOS:DATETIES. That's especially true for this article. Probably the best way forward is to run an RFC to get broad community input one way or the other.
BilCat (
talk) 20:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Inconsistency
The article says in section "Boeing 707s and entry to jet age":
"Toward the end of Eisenhower's second term, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles commented that Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev and other senior Soviet officials had begun using the technologically advanced Tupolev Tu-114 aircraft for their travels, and it was no longer dignified for the president to fly in a propeller-driven aircraft."
In this form the argument makes no sense because the Tu-114 is a propeller plane (and this was also the case for the one Khrushchev used).
83.93.38.219 (
talk) 20:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply