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The result of the move request was: move to
Embrace (English album) and
Embrace (American album), respectively. Consensus is unanimous that renaming is needed per the guideline
WP:NCM. Equally, consensus is clear thet the originally-proposed renaming was unnecessarily complicated.
Xoloz (
talk) 04:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Oppose. It's a spectacularly bad disambiguation as it is. We should really find a new name for the articles if we are to oppose Embrace (2014 album), because renaming it to something like Embrace (Embrace (English band) album) is god-awful. It's unnecessarily long and has a bracket-in-a-bracket for crying out loud! We stuck with the Embrace (Embrace (English band) album) for a day or two, and it was incredibly annoying. I had to bookmark the page because I really couldn't be bothered typing in that article name anymore. The only way most people are going to be able to find this article is through other articles, which is a bad thing, considering the effort that goes in trying to make Wikipedia an easy-to-use site. Notice that the days in which this particular article got the least page views is when the article was named Embrace (Embrace (English band) album), most of which, in those two days, were mine. Let's try to find another way to disambiguate this, shall we? RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 16:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)reply
Support - this makes it clear that there are two different Embrace bands involved, passes
WP:CRITERIA and WP:AT CONSISTENCY; and is more user-friendly since year is never a good way to find albums or songs.
In ictu oculi (
talk) 16:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)reply
It's a good way to find films, television series and, theoretically, books. Why shouldn't it be a good way to find albums? RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 06:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Well what's the difference between films with the same name and albums with the same name? Often at least.
In ictu oculi (
talk) 17:47, 6 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Support. – Per established Wikipedia naming conventions for albums, the current titles may confuse readers into thinking that the same artist released both the 1987 and 2014 albums. Most musical releases here are generally disambiguated by artist, except for the case of the same act releasing multiple albums under the same name (i.e. Weezer, as mentioned above). I do understand where Razor's coming from here with the whole brackets issue (and perhaps this could be treated as a special exception if enough users oppose the proposed titles), but for now I'd support sticking to the established naming convention guidelines.
Holiday56 (
talk) 15:23, 4 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment if these are not renamed, then the proposed titles should be created as redirects. --
70.50.148.248 (
talk) 00:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
"English band album" suggests a "band album" which is English... I suppose as opposed to a solo artist's album? But if "English" causes confusion because of its linguistic meaning, as in your example (b), your proposal isn't really an improvement. What did you think of my proposal to disambiguate by genre? --
BDD (
talk) 23:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
If anyone wants to have another bite at this, I wouldn't object to adding the word "band". But nor will I support it; I think that despite the concerns above, the current titles work well enough. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 01:19, 22 February 2014 (UTC)reply
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