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Someone should explain who the Abkhazians are. There is no use to redirect to the article "Abkhazia". This is an encyclopedia!
Can someone add more content about the religion of the Abkhaz?
I looked it up and there are some huge variations in the estimates available.
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I think we should give both an upper and lower estimate, rather than just the higher end or even a mean one: KillaShark 06:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
The accuracy of this page is in serious trouble! The author claims Abkhazians have always maintained a majority population in Abkhazia yet I can not find a single reference anywhere (Save extremist Abkhazian nationalist sites!) which supports this shadowy claim.
In fact, the general academic consensus is the reverse. Most claim that Georgians held a the majority. Still others suggest that Abkhazians are in fact proto-Georgians with a relatively recent Northern Caucasion influence. This author seems to engage in "orginal research" which is clearly not allowed. I suggest we remove his writings and request that a qualified person submit a body of work on this subject that meets more rigorous academic standards. We do not need to further pollute Wikipedia with more dogmatic pablum! Dynamisto1 13:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
half a million is too much to mention. Considering assimilation rate, and low reproduction ratio of abkhazian people, best guess for population in Turkey would be 350 000 depending on 1963 census of 300 000(last one with an ethnic option). 39000 is just a joke. It is even less than the total abkhaz Population estimate in Bursa and Eskisehir regions. which doesnt include majority of the population in Düzce, Adapazarı, İzmit. Also there are sustantial amounts of people settled in Eastern anatolia esp Muş and Bitlis. so 350 000 wouldnt be too inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.222.218 ( talk) 03:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Please present reliable and valid sources (primary and secondary) before labelling or challenging the claims made by the article. Thanks Ldingley 13:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
This article is part of the NPOV backlog. Some minor, potentially loaded, text has been removed to reach NPOV. However, the tagged section, "History", does not cite a single source and therefore do not conform to WP:V (also see WP:RS). Since there has been no discussion suggesting further disagreement, the tag is removed. If you disagree with this, please re-tag the article with {{NPOV}} and post to Talk here. -- Steve Hart 18:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
In the history section, first paragraph, I changed the word "evicted" to "expelled". Eviction is a euphemism and is inconsistent with the use of verb expel later in the article in reference to Georgians in the 1990s. Eviction is usually related to the removal of tenants through legal methods. Lebenyu 19:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left here. Ling.Nut 22:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Why georgians? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.77.28.177 ( talk) 10:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the mentioning of Georgians among ethnic groups related to the Abkhaz. As the Origins section itself mentions, the Kartvelians are ethnolinguistically unrelated to the Northwest Caucasian peoples. -- Jalen ( talk) 10:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Also culturally very distinct with georgian majority. Abkhaz tradition is comes from Nart epic, and strict respect to elders, different clothing, a strict rule for marriage A strict kast system. Georgians never possessed these. While they marry their cousins, no place for women in their society, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.222.218 ( talk) 03:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
The origins of the Abkhaz are disputed for several reasons. The language of the Abkhaz belongs to the Northwest Caucasian languages group which is distinct from the Georgian (Kartvelian) language family. However, scholarly opinion (mostly Western and Georgian) favors the notion that the indigenous people of Abkhazia were directly related to the Heniochi tribe, a proto-Georgian group that lived along the northeastern shores of the Black Sea, on the southern slopes of the Caucasus Mountains. According to Professor David Marshall Lang, the Henoichi tribe lived near the border of Colchis (Western Georgian Kingdom) and were eventually absorbed into that state in the first millennium BC.[2]
As far as I understand the word however is there because of the statement that heniochs were proto-Georgian. What source does support this? Here is what's written in the book by prof. Lang I've got (last three lines): File:Lang page.jpg Alæxis ¿question? 10:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The whole paragraph seems contradictory to me. It looks like Western and Georgian scholars don't agree that Abkhaz language belongs to Northwest Caucasian group... Alæxis ¿question? 10:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
«ABKHAZES ou ABKHAZ, peuple du Caucase occidental, habitant la région située entre la mer Noire et la principale chaîne du Caucase, constituant l’actuelle République soviétique autonome d’Abkhazie. Les ancêtres des Abkhazes , déjà signalés dans cette région par Arrien et Pline, furent soumis par Justinien au VI s. et convertis au christianisme. Leurs tribus furent réunies en un royaume qui constitua de la fin du VIII au X s. la puissance dominante du Caucase occidental. L’islam commença à pénétrer dans le pays à partir du XVI s. Le pays fut définitivement annexé par la Russie en 1864, ce qui provoqua l’exode massif des musulmans vers la Turquie. Actuellement la population est presque également partagée entre sunnites et chrétiens orthodoxes» (Grand Dictionnaire Encyclopédique Larousse. Tome 1. 1985. P. 20). Apswaaa ( talk) 15:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
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The article states:
"When the Achba dynasty established the Kingdom of Abkhazia in the 780s and freed themselves from the Byzantine hegemony, Abkhazia became a part of the Georgian cultural world."
The impression one gets is that as early as 8th century AD the House of Anchabadze was referred to in its Abkhazianized form "Achba". Is there any source for that? Or any written evidence mentioning name "Achba" that early at all? There does not seem to be a reliable source for this and none has appeared for almost a year and a half (since December 2017, when the "citation needed" was added).
So maybe consideration should be made to remove the entire paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marovaso ( talk • contribs) 10:20, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Гвына Юсыф Т., I'm not sure I agree with the reasons you provided for the deletion of the Genetics section. You said "there are not materiel enough to be precise," what makes you think so? There is a source provided so you could argue that it's not reliable or you could argue that there are other sources which contradict it. Is it the former or the latter? Alaexis ¿question? 07:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
In History section of this article, Pavle Ingorokva's infamous theory on Abaza migration into Abkhazia is erroneously referred to as the basis of "Stalin-era Assimilation Policy". This simply could not have been the case, seeing as Ingorokva's work in question, "Giorgi Merchule", came out in 1954, a year after Stalin's death. I think this particular segment warrants deletion. 176.221.207.244 ( talk) 20:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)