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Why? Come on people, the show, while done well, is overdramatic pretentious propaganda, it becomes obvious after watching just one episode
Does anyone know which model cell phone Jack Bauer uses in each season? i'd love that to get addd to the page. Jwikipro 00:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
WHY? There was no good reason to have her page redirected here, also I swear Lennox had his own page as well but now it's gone. Puppet125 16:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I think a link to the recaps of episodes at the FOX website should be enough to satisfy that. Check out the article on Morris O'Brian to see what I mean.-- T smitts 07:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
It says in the Background section on the Nina Myers' article that 'it is quite possible that she speaks even more languages than that,' referring to Serbian, Arabic and German. However I don't see what this is based on. Algebra Man 14;40, 9 December 2006
Is it worth mentiong, that even though the episodes are meant to be an hour long, 40 minutes is the actual length of them, due to the ridiculous number and length of American ads? user:algebra man 18:20 (UTC) 12 December 2006
The orginal broadcast in the US was made already accounting for commercials in "real time". It doesn't matter about what other networks do it only matters about what the original network does. User:Tenio
Is there a 24 WikiProject? If not, there should be. Ninety wazup? 23:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This article is scarily one-sided. There is no mention whatsoever of any criticism or negative press. In fact, the closest the article ever gets to the word "criticism" is "critical acclaim"...
A few examples of criticism in the press:
DES 16:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
All the articles on the various characters, organizations, etc. have no Wikipedia:Reliable sources whatsoever. These articles need to be substantiated. This is not a fan site, it is a verifiable encyclopedia. Many of these articles should be merged either into this article or into an article on characters in general. Articles without reliable sources are regularly deleted. — Centrx→ talk • 22:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
In Day 2, 5:00 - 6:00 pm, just after Jack has escaped from Nina, he whispers something into her ear and it seems to scare her. Does anyone know what he said, or even roughly what he is meant to have implied? Algebra man 16:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
In her trivia section it says that she died in the same room as Teri did, but I don't see what this is based on as I don't think they look the same Anyone have further info? If not I'll remove it. Algebra man 16:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
And Yes the same room Nina killed the CTU worker and Teri was the same room she died in. Julie198 17:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I have started writing a section on p.p. but doubt if I put it in, it wil stay for very long. If I put what I have so far here, perhaps people could edit appropriately and I'll add it in soon.
Fox makes ample use of product placement in 24 in a variety of ways. The Apple logo is a distinctive sight, which can be easily noticed even when the camera is a fair distance from the computer, or computer peripheral. Screenshots are often taken at the appropriate angle, allowing a Dell logo on, for example, the power button of a monitor to be easily readable. When Chloe is at her station HP receives it’s only advertisement as her monitor has a large HP logo on the back. Algebra man 17:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Where do you find promotional photographs and press releases? I have a username and password at foxpressoffice.com. -- theDemonHog 02:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
The articles below are unnecesarry for English Wikipedia. These are:
-- JSH-alive talk to me see my works mail to me 11:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
No matter what you download off of Bittorrent, the episodes have not aired yet on tv. Please, everyone, wait until after the episodes air before you include infomation about the plot. Thank you. dposse 18:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I was going to say... theres kind of a big spoiler there. I'm going to go ahead and delete that. Glad I saw the episodes BEFORE coming here Mobkey 03:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it worth making a silent clock succession box, considering how rare they are? Algebra man 21:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
No, it isnt important. Julie198 17:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I think it should be added. 211.124.15.96 22:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree, there should be some mention of the silent clock somewhere in the article, (there did use to be) even if it's just a short mention in the trivia section. -- Hardy24 13:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
"As of the start of the 2007 season, 24 stands as the third-longest running espionage series ever produced for English-language television, surpassed in episode count only by The Avengers (161 episodes) and the original Mission: Impossible series (171 episodes)."
I've removed this as original research. If anyone can find a
WP:reliable source, then add it back in.
dposse
20:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Noticed that "Audry Raines" and "James Heller" are credited with only the current season, not past ones. RoyBatty42 20:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Curtis Manning / Roger Cross needs to be added to the current recurring roles list as well.
I agree Julie198 17:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC))
I think this article needs to have a section dealing with critism of the show. For example, one could be of those who simply don't like the show, but the other could be on the show's conservative bias. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.81.229.178 ( talk) 03:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
Did Curtis get a silent clock? Algebra man 19:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
The article includes the claim, " Jude Ciccolella, who played Mike Novick, appeared in 58 episodes through seasons 1, 2, 4 and 5, the seventh most appearances of any character." At least twice, I have requested a source to back up this claim, but people keep removing the request without filling it. Without a source, this is original research and should not be included in the article. -- ΨΦorg 06:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This seems to be too far from NPOV, so I re-worded it a bit to make it neutral. [Somebody beat me to the punch; never mind.] Samer 16:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The section about Keith Olbermann is blatantly slanted, and was even cited with a republican blog which frequently attacks Olbermann. I did what I could to clean it up, but it still needs substantial rewrite to be either accurate or encyclopedic. -- Goodnightmush 16:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The section about Keith Olbermann is right on the money. The guy has been a frequent critic of conservatives and Republicans and anything resembling "American". No one seems to care when people cite from Democrat/liberal blogs. He is a liberal and VERY anti-American.
I don't get the argument. Olbermann did say it, he is just being quoted. The only thing I can see being disputed is the author of that section called him a "liberal political commentator" but if have ever seen his show or listen to his comments on ESPN radio than you would know that he is liberal. So what is being disputed? (clr231)
I think it's "CNB", but I could be wrong... there were a few others, such as local stations, that are sometimes also shown near-correctly. Nevertheless, is Keith Olbermann really a notable subject in this article? If anything, the Arab-American groups that have criticized the show deserve more of a mention than a low-rated cable news host. If we were to include the Arab-American groups, however, we should also note that the 24 producers have created at least one PSA urging against racism in America. -- Mrmiscellanious 01:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
They use FOX news most of the time because, and this is a stunner, it airs on FOX! I agree if there are to be criticisms they should come from a better source than K.O. Yes I believe the POV tag should be removed. And quite frankly Samer, Olbermann's arguments are quite illogical. In the first season they mentioned David Palmer is running for the Democratic primary, therefore Keeler and Logan were Republican. Keeler at best was portrayed as ineffectual and at worst complicit in the conspiracy. Logan was portrayed as weak, indecisive, and of course a traitor. Whereas both Palmers are portrayed as strong leaders. 24 also had not one but two different oil group conspiracies, which is of course more closely associated with the Republican party. (rockstar710)
I removed the Keith Olbermann criticism since criticism has come from both left and right wings in the past. I figure instead of trying to find a way to have both liberal and conservative viewpoints, we should just leave that blank. As far as I am concerned, the Muslim controversies of Season 4 and this season are more noteworthy than this Olbermann stuff. If anything, I suggest just posting that the show has come under fire from both left and right wings but that the producers are adamant the show is unbiased. -- Barinade2151 19:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
As I said above, the standard isn't whether Olbermann's criticism is accurate or logical. It's whether his criticism is notable. As much as some of you might want to dismiss him due to your own POV, Olbermann himself is a notable public figure. If he had made his comments in a blog and no major media sources brought it up on the air or in print, you could argue that it wasn't notable. However, that's not what Olbermann did. He dedicated a segment of his nationally televised news show to criticism of 24. The fact that a public figure criticized this show in a public venue is notable, even if his criticisms were off base. Redxiv 05:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I edited the criticism to take out any POV I could. There should just be a statement of fact and no POV slant in any direction. As far as I am concerned, the Muslim criticism is much more notable and, to that end, I have done my best to write up a paragraph on the situation. I left the Olbermann stuff in there but rewrote it to make it smaller as it is the less notable of the issues. I hope that we can keep it this way and expand on what we have. The Olbermann stuff should not be above the Muslim stuff because that gives it a feel of being more prominent and noteworthy...which it is not. The Olbermann criticism lasted for under a week and is largely forgotten at this point. The Muslim criticism is now into it's second season and is important. -- 68.54.101.229 22:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
How come the page for CTU redirects here? I think it merits an article of its own. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.48.109.122 ( talk • contribs).
Do we really need to brag about how the dvd was prematurely leaked and available on bt? Zero day warez, can anyone think of a dvd or software package that didn't end up as a zero day warez? -- 75.24.196.144 04:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I was out of the country and missed taping them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.189.167.200 ( talk) 07:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
It's not exactly the right sort of question for this section, but in case the page hasn't already informed you, you can just buy the DVD they've recently released. GrubLord 09:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Can I have opinions on how much information should be included in these? At present, they read more like short teasers than anything else. Since we have the spoiler template, I would be inclined to write them much more straightforwardly, without worrying about giving away identities of moles, plot twists, etc. Being too vague makes it sound unencyclopaedic in my opinion. But I would like to hear others' views before making any attempt to rewrite. Thanks. Trebor 19:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I dont know what's happened but now all the info boxes say {{{Graham}}} in the black bar beneath the character piture - I dont remember what went here before. Im not sure how to chang them back but it needs to be done soon. Algebra man 20:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Graham is actually not spelt "Graham" but "Graem", and this is found on the 24 official website [3] (in Jack character guide, season 6, and some other locations if found). Can you please make these changes if possible. Thank You --ShadowSlave 02:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
"The criticism by Olbermann followed 24's January 15 broadcast, in which a small nuclear weapon is detonated in Valencia, California by a terrorist group.[17]" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28TV_series%29#Criticism)
I think it really should be a spoiler advice here. Please correct this if possible. Thank you.
I don't know if this page is the place for it, but I have recently discovered a secret mission for 24 viewers which can be accessed on the site http://www.ctuagent.com. I can't see anything about it on this page and I have all the info to hand, just not the time to add it to the page in pristine condition. If I had some help, I'd be happy to post the info here then someone could put it into good WIKI markup and put it in the article. Any takers? Bobnotts 17:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Every page concerning 24 has irritating grammar and syntax/punctuation errors. Even the first paragraph of 24's main page has two unnecessary commas. I have gone through and edited a very few number of pages, but I am currently not allowed to edit the main page. Hattness 07:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Hattness
It is not Graham Bauer, It Graem Bauer!
This may be a pedantic point to raise, but BitTorrent is not actually a P2P network. It is a data transmission protocol which is in every way decentralised, and the illusion of a BitTorrent 'network' stems simply from the fact that there are numerous BitTorrent trackers apparently designed for illegally distributed content which have grown to massive proportions. Naming BitTorrent as the "P2P Network" that leaked 24 contributes to the view that BitTorrent is a mechanism for wrongdoing or some sort of piracy network, when it is simply an efficient way to stream data that is being exploited for piracy. I would like to alter the attribution in this article to name the actual infringers and avoid needless libel, but I'm not sure what tracker site actually distributed the series first. If no-one objects too severely, could someone better informed please make the change? GrubLord 08:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
... is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/24 season 6 episodes. thanks/ Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, most of this is minor, but I figured I'd bring it up for discussion anyways. I've noticed inconsistencies between the time and episode title formats used throughout these articles and will be fixing to consolidate them. Per the MOS, times should be in the a.m. format, and episode titles marked in quotation marks. The Fox website currently lists all episodes in the format "12:00 AM - 1:00 AM". Given that some of the episodes titles marked now have quotes and others don't, some use "to" and others use "-", some include a space or don't between the time and "AM" or hyphen, they should be made consistent. At the moment, I figure the above mentioned format is appropriate for standardization, but if there's some reason this should be otherwise, please feel free to mention it. Bitnine 23:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
According to WP:MOS, succession boxes should not be used for fictional articles. I'm opening this up for discussion but I think its pretty clear that the guideline is clear in not allowing these. Gdo01 03:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
After two weeks and no discussion regarding the merge of Counter Terrorist Unit into this article, CTU has been redirected here. If somebody would like to take the lead on this merge, the full CTU article can be found in this version. auburnpilot talk 18:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The main aim was to combine the section on torture in "elements", with the section on torture in "criticisms", which made it also seem logical to try and combine the two sections dealing with the Heritage Foundation event together. As the central conceit and USP of the series the real time nature of the show deserves greater prominence and the remaining "elements" section has been moved to the front of the article. Similarly "cameo appearances" seems to better belong to the cast section of the article than in "other media". The fan phone isn't really a spin off of the show and has been given a trivia section of its own.
Although there is a seperate article, as the main protaganist of the show, there really should be a short section on Jack Bauer, his history, character and motivations etc. Koonan the almost civilised 12:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a death count for each episode? Personally, I think it is a bit gimmicky and very unnecessary - as most of the deaths are of characters we never even meet, as well as inconsistent since we don't have it for ther seasons. I don't think this kind of thing belongs on wikipedia - a fan site such as 24 wikia would be more appropriate - and that we should delete them all. Anyone agree? Algebra man 20:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Category:24 (TV series) cast members is currently down for being {{ listify}}d. There seems to be quite a complete cast list here already. Should anything be added from the category, or a subpage created with a complete cast list? Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Opening para says: "Five seasons of 24 have been produced, and the sixth began airing on 14 January 2007." This appears to be contradictory: if the sixth season hasn't yet been produced, how can it be airing already? Should this read along the lines "Sixth seasons of 24 have been produced, the most recent of which began airing on 14 January 2007." Or am I missing something here (in which case, can this be made clear where this sentence appears in the article)? Sroc 12:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
There's a "starring" section in the infobox that appears to only list the current season's cast. I know the box would become rather large, but I was thinking that the box might do better to list the stars from every season, otherwise implying spoilers that certain characters are gone from the show. Any thoughts on that? 74.102.223.160 05:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
This section inaccurately represented ISO8601 as prohibiting leading zeroes. In fact, section 3.6 of the standard specifically says that they may be used where required to fit a particular display format, and section 4.2.1 specifies that hour should be represented by two digits, and 4.2.3 gives examples with leading zeroes. I have accordingly removed the inaccurate material. Robert A.West ( Talk) 03:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Based on the above comments, I have marked the section as original research. There is no evidence whatsoever that the on-screen clock is supposed to make viewers think of a 24 hour clock. This is purely an assumption by the editor, based on a particular editor's viewpoint. Robert A.West ( Talk) 03:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
As you've probably noticed, this article is quite long. What do you think about moving the tables under "Cast" to the "Characters in 24" article? It would cut down a lot on size and would be a good fit in that article. Stoneice02 12:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone should add one of those "Current event"/"information may change" warnings to the section on the sixth season, since every week the plot changes. -- Lophoole 17:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I had added a former main cast list about three months ago, which was working fine.
Now there is a bloated and even inaccurate summery. I'm sorry to whoever wrote it but I'm going to overhaul the cast section.
Tylerco113x 22:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe it goes Domestic, Division, and then District. In Episode 2x24, Division Director Ryan Chappelle calls the District Director "sir" and I hardly think he'd say that to a subordinate. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 14:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
In Episode 1x1 Nina Myers refers to George Mason as a "District Director", earlier on in the episode George refers to Ryan Chappelle as his Boss. The show is not clear enough to make mention of the hierachy of CTU on the article. -- Hardy24 14:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Has there ever been a case in the show where they've tortured a suspect who turned out to be innocent? It might be worth mentioning if so. I can't recall any such times (though I've only watched four and a half seasons). It always seems that they get the right man, making torture A-OK. 220.235.150.37 11:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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I think you mean Richard Heller. Algebra man 08:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
It's been a while since I watched that season... Secretary Heller's son, at any rate, yes. Demosthenes X 19:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes but he witheld crucial information despite being innocent. Audrey Raines was framed by Collette Stenger to give Hendersen time, she was innocent. Richard knew the location of Mandy and Gary and he was not involved in any criminal activity but Mandy wittingly used his phone that implicated him. 84.129.95.75 17:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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In season 4, an innocent female CTU analyst (I forget her name) was tortured in the holding room. She was suspected of being a mole for Habib Marwan but another analyst proved her innocence.
Bigbonedoc 13:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Sarah Gavin.
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This is a bizarre question. The purpose of torture, in the show at least if not in real life, is to acquire information, not to punish "the guilty". It's just part of the amoral irreality of 24 that the need for such information so often coincides with a convenient ability to say, hey, this is a bad guy, he deserves what he gets.
This is a pretty good show. I do believe I give it two thumbs up and five stars.
Currently Kim Raver/Audrey Raines is listed under "Former Regular Cast" and "Season 6 Special Guest Stars".
According to imdb.com, she will be in every single episode of this season starting with 10pm-11pm. Given her regular cast status in previous seasons, doesn't that make her part of the regular cast again? -- Serge 00:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a section on bias, no other TV show has a section on a "bias", Battlestar Galactica, for example, has no section on bias, The West Wing has no section on bias, both of which have a pretty clear liberal bias. My point is a TV show is a work of fiction, it may or may not reflect the views of the writers, however it is not a news program or documentary, it is people exercising their right to free speech. It should be noted that the most recent season has more apparent liberal bias than conservative, the supposed persecution of muslims, for example. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.104.114.202 ( talk) 16:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
This seems to be a section which has only just been created, and frankly it needs a lot of work, it's overly long and contains more plot details than the season recaps. I'd suggest heavily editing it down to the barebones because it it's current state it's hard to edit and i doubt it enlightens anyone on the subject. -- Hardy24 13:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hardy24 ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
OK first of all I do accept that I shouldn't have removed so much info without consultation. However if you look further up this page you will see a section about Season 6 death counts in which I tried to discuss it but only one person replied and I wasn't going to wait forever. OK now my reasons for removing the death counts.
1) They are vague. Many of them say things such as "More than 254" - 7:00AM-8:00AM (24 season 6). Several of them have unconfirmed deaths, 4:00PM-5:00PM (24 season 6) which in my mind accounts to speculation and rumours. Since we don't have exact numbers what is the point in putting them there?
2)The characters who died are mainly non-entities 7:00PM-8:00PM (24 season 6). Do we really need to list every bad guy that Jack has killed or every security guard that has heroically lost his life in the line of duty? The answer is no and I will point you to WP:NOT#IINFO where you will see that Wikipedia is not "an indiscriminate collection of information" which I feel a death count is. As I said above this stuff belongs on a fan site. And if a specific character is killed and is important enough to have their death mentioned, e.g. Curtis, it will be mentioned somewhere in the plot summary.
3)They provide us with no real information. How exactly is the storyline drastically affected if 47 people in the Chicago Hotel are killed? Again I refer you to WP:NOT#IINFO.
4)It is inconsistent. Do we have death counts for the other series? Once more the answer is no. Why should Season 6 be any different. For that matter do we have death counts for other TV programs? Out of the ones I read on Wikipedia I can again answer no. Why should 24 be different?
As for the trivia, the stuff I got rid of was in my opinion pointless as in one episode for example, there were 2 rather long trivia points not about the episode but giving an indepth discussion of the 25th ammendment - I'll admit most of the remainder wasn't as bad but so what if Jack's father had business in Venezuela before Chavez? Or if the code for the bomb is 624 which could possibly stand for Day 6 of 24 (again I remind you of speculation)? For most of this stuff I will once again cite
WP:NOT#IINFO.
I await your opinions on this. Algebra man 11:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
On the trivia, I think perhaps this not as straight forward, certainly there is reason to always be concerned with length, anything which unduly adds length to the article, without adding much value should be flagged up and be reconsidered. But many TV show articles do indeed contain trivia sections, and it's simply a good way to include information of note, but which could make the main article rather dense with too much information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hardy24 ( talk • contribs) 21:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
I would like a few more opinions from people on this one. I am willing to relent on the trivia - even though it is unencyclopaedic - however not on the death counts. I think we should get rid of them now and I will do so soon if I do not get enough responce saying people them kept. In respone to your comments Chris, yes I have watched it before so stop patronising. It is irritating me. I also feel that you have failed to reply properly to my reasons for getting rid of the death counts and your argument of "24 is [a] totally different show" is growing old and is in no way a good reason for keeping it. I am willing to bet everyone thinks their favourite show is different in some way but that does not mean we please all of them by giving them what they want and you are no different. Algebra man 18:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i found that the old CTU page off and only a small blip in the main 24 artical about it. I don't like this because it takes alot of the history and such from CTU, which I find important to people who may want to know a bit more about it. i saw the archive of the old CTU page and feel that it should be put back up and updated. just wondering if anyone here agreed with me. Thanks, Tyler G (I'm a noob so don't bite me.) Tyler Gothier 01:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Although the article is due for breaking into smaller articles, I'll leave that to others to decide how to do that. However, there were so many categories in this article, they seemed scattered to me... in that they were just added to previous categories with no thought of organization... just a concern for thoroughness. Not a bad reason, but it needed to be reorganized into broader overall categories. So, with that in mind, I did so. All Other Media is organized in the same section, which includes DVD releases. Ratings is a broadcast-related item, not necessarily a critical reaction, so it went underneath the new Broadcasting information category. And Controversy is a reaction, both critical and viewer, so it is now organized under Critical Reaction, as is Parodies and Interaction with viewers, which makes more logical sense (at least to me) under that category. I made no changes whatsoever to the content... things were moved simply done to make the article more organized. I'm interested in hearing everyone's feedback on this. Thanks!-- TARDIS 03:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
The cast list section is stupid complex. I'm not quite sure how we got here, but it's overly complex and long. I mean, do we really need two seperate charts to seperate "special guest stars" and "guest stars", my vote would be to merge those two charts.
But i'd appreciate opinions and other ideas. Maybe restructing that section will be easier after the current season has finished? -- Hardy24 20:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Per WP:FICT guidelines for minor concepts, etc. I won't do it myself, it would probably be better if one of the editors of this article merged it. Croxley 01:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the this page should be deleted since we know *nothing* about it - as per teh first sentence and common sense-, except that it will involve Jack Bauer and it will follow season 7 - I actually think it is pushing it to have the season 7 page since it is so premature but I'm willing to let that slide. What does everybody think? Algebra man 18:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
1:00AM-2:00AM (24 season 6) needs some immediate tending to as it seems that it has been vandalised. I would do it but I haven't seen it - so I 'm desoerate to read it! A quick fix would be much appreciated! Algebra man 18:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
It's a section buried below the "bias" and "torture" sections.
It seems really oddly worded, and I believe it should simply be placed as a paragraph in the main critical and audience reaction section. I don't think it warrants an entire subsection. Though it's defintely worth mentioning and it appears well enough sourced. -- Hardy24 13:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I see that's what is now in place of the cast list in the main summary box in the top right. Surely the current regular cast list isn't to long to be here. Anyone know why it was changed? -- Hardy24 13:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay... pet peeve time. Look, we all like Glenn. He's plays a Secret Service agent really well, and in interviews, he comes off as a really swell guy. But he is not, I repeat NOT, a member of the main cast AND NEVER HAS BEEN. Yet, someone keeps wanting to add the fact that he's made an appearance in all six seasons to the section on the main cast. Yes, he has made an appearance in all six seasons. Yes, that's moderately interesting. No, that information doesn't belong in the paragraph about the main cast, because, I don't know, Glenn IS NOT PART OF THE MAIN CAST. He's a bit player, a really nice bit player that we all have fond feelings for, but a bit player, nonetheless. Sorry to shout, but this is really annoying me. I originally had Glenn in the Recurring Cast section with an asterisk and a note pointing out that he has made an appearance in all six seasons. I dunno why it was removed, but that info does not belong in the paragraph on the main cast. Sigh... rant over.-- TARDIS 00:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Seeing as we're between seasons I figured that there is no such thing as a former cast and current cast, its all the same. Once season 7 is announced we can put it back the way it was, but for now leave it all as one.
And will people stop putting up who died in the cast table?? Its totally unnecessary information and we don't need it. If they want to find out who died they can click on the characters.
Tylerco113x 04:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, shouldn't Doyle be listed among the characters? Jiggz84 16:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Please. ITs not necessary, and its a spoiler that someone might not want.
Tylerco113x 23:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that this article is getting too long? What sections would we break off? Mpete510 19:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
The Doctor Who episode '42' was a nod towards 24. Should this be added to the parody section in the Critism page? 137.205.230.17 17:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)beware
The article lists CTU as being part of the Department of Defense. The 24 book series clearly states that the unit is part of the CIA, and would be the only canonical link offered thus far. Nostalgicmonkey 08:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I feel that this article needs some serious tending to asap. As you can see it doesn't actually discuss the individual seasons in the slightest. I'm not sure if that is what is meant by 'this article does not conform with writing about trivia' but I feel it is being ignored as people believe that saying there is a problem is just as good as fixing it and, as it's central to the 24 universe, it needs to be put on the radar again. Algebra man 10:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure that the fifth season was released on DVD end 2006 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28TV_series%29#DVD_releases
This is beginning to irritate me and I want to see what others think. I know that there is speculation about whether or not he died. However the same is true of Tony's death and we label him as deceased so I feel we should do the same for Philip and not put him as "unknown" or "assumed deceased" or "possibly escaped" as the first two are vague and the last is speculative. Algebra man 14:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
On cturookie.com there is a webisoide launched that showcases what happened before Day 1. Is anyone planning on making a article for it?
24 is a television show documentary on the almighty Fox network that features 24 nonstop hours of true American hero Jack Bauer torturing terrorists (Jack Bauer is in fact a real person, despite him looking strinkingly similar to the actor Kiefer Sutherland, which is due to the fact that Bauer had so much greatness that all of his lesser qualities didn't fit and therefore had to be put in a second body). 24 won "Best Drama" at the 2006 Emmys because it kicks too much ass. It is second only to The Colbert Report as the most Real American show on television.
The show's fifth season featured the President of the United States performing terrorist acts, which is impossible because a President never has and never will perform terrorist acts of any kind. Ever. The last episode of the fifth season also features hero Jack Bauer getting his ass kicked by a bunch of Chinese guys. Jack Bauer getting beat up by Chinese? Pfft... that's not very realistic. The fact that he wasn't sleeping, eating or pissing/shitting during the show brought up controversy because it was "unrealistic". People, we're talking about Jack Bauer, he's an American Hero, it IS REALISTIC...GET WITH THE PROGRAM! Londo06 21:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Who is this Ethel person? It seems as if she is meant to be Teri Bauer's sister and she appears on the Jack Bauer and the Kim Bauer page? Is it vandalism? Algebra man 14:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Why does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_episodes redirect to the main article, is this an oversight or was there a reason behind it? -- Hardy24 15:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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Shear profile of 24 and number of magazines focusing on TV shows means per epersode articles will be posible in the case of 24. Geni 21:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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What is the meaning of the word "ironically" in this context? Ironically, Mike Novick was involved with [the 25th Amendment] being invoked in both the 2nd and 4th seasons.
Ive heard that anytime a person dies on 24 the clock ticks but is silent. On the last episode of last season Jack Baur stands on the cliff looking out and the show ends with a silent clock. Also rumor has it that Tony will be returning because when he died the clock made sound. After all of this people believe that Jack will die and Tony will replace him. But how can this be with a 24 movie coming out that Kiefer Sutherland has already signed for. How wierd would that be if he was in the movie but dead on the show. Please help with this dilema. Hammerkid14 13:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
See [4]. Should this be mentioned in the article? JoshuaZ 03:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
The information in the infoboxes is getting out of hand; character affiliations are cluttering up the infobox -Nina Myers has seven, just as an example- characters such as Tony Almeida and Charles Logan are constantly having their status' changed - not unfairly in my mind - and other characters have a ridiculous amount of jobs named - Erin Driscoll seven. Infoboxes are meant to be succinct and convey the most important information concisely; at the moment many of them are a true mess. I suggest slimming them down via removing the messy sections - e.g. affiliations -, the unnecessary sections - jobs held - and anything else that would help the problem. asyndeton 16:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
"Nonetheless, 24 has become part of American popular culture and has been the subject of numerous parodies. It also got a parody on the anime Lucky Star."
Is this noteworthy enough to be included? 24 is a popular show that has been parodied in media all over the world. Why single out one obscure anime?-- Citizen Sykes 18:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
There are plenty of sources now that Season 7 will feature a revamp of the shows format, with the main location not neccesarily being L.A., and or things we've come to expect as certainities not being so any more. Should the opening remarks contain mention of this?, even if it was it general terms. Opinions? -- Hardy24 16:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
An addition by me about the commercial breaks was removed without any comment, so I put it back. Maybe this requires some clarification. In western Europe (can't speak for other parts of the world) public stations don't have commercial breaks during shows (and the BBC doesn't have any at all). So the real time effect doesn't work. And commercial stations all have their own schemes of where to insert commercial breaks and how long they are, so the effect may not work there either, unless they adapt their scheme. Which they often don't do in the Netherlands. I thought I wrote that clearly enough. Or was it in some way not intelligible? Surely, it's relevant, because it is about an important aspect of how the show works. I can easily understand any confusion because I was also for a long time confused by those 'blackouts' during US shows on Dutch tv. The BBC often makes nice transitions, but the simpler solution is to let the screen go black for a second and then restart. Because this often happens during a 'cliff hanger', I thought that maybe it was meant to 'break the tension' or something. :) Only when we got commercial tv in the Netherlands in the nineties did I finally understand the real reason. DirkvdM 10:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Character affiliations are getting out of hand - Nina Myers being just one example - and I would like to remove them on the basis that they are subjective and do not belong in the infobox, which is meant to be succinct and for 'at a glance' information'. Unless I meet with opposition by 21:00 (UTC) today, I shall purge them all. asyndeton 09:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
The template at the bottom of the page is outright terrible and needs to be changed or removed. It makes Jack sound like a secondary character at best and puts him on an equal footing with Bill, whose impact on the show has been much less. It suggests that nobodies like Ethan Kanin, who may as well not exist, and people who haven't even appeared in the show yet are more important and it gives the impression that characters such as David Palmer, Nina Myers and Michelle Dessler are minor characters, inferior to the likes of Kanin. If something doesn't happen soon, I'm removing it. asyndeton 18:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Why does Larry Moss redirect here (to 24)? Thought he was a voice actor. Mace Windu 00:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
It says something to the effect of "season 5 had the highest body count, including tony, but oh yeah hes actually alive now" What it should say is "season 5 by far had the highest body count with X deaths (tony almeda actually did not die)" if we still believe this to be true, or "season 5 had X deaths (tony almeda actually did not die)" if we think one less death lessens the extent of season 5's body count. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.121.158 ( talk) 02:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I thought this was common knowledge, but I will ask this nicely in case it is not. PLEASE advertise spoilers for the upcoming seasons. Some of us may want to see sneak previews of the next season's cast and plot, but I know that I am one of the many who would like to go in fresh without any knowledge. I mean, I don't even watch the "next week on 24" commercials during the week. Thank you.
-- J.K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.170.158.46 ( talk) 00:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
yeah. have a look at the article and someone who knows more about the show please edit the guest star section. Thanks Philbuck222 11:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Cast and crew of 24 were in Washington, D.C. this weekend, filming in Georgetown. I asked them if I could get photos for Wikipedia, and they said no. :( Though, I was able to observe (from the nearest street corner) and get some photos, including of Kiefer Sutherland. These are posted on Flickr, and would be happy to upload any of these here, if they would be of use. Just let me know which ones. -- Aude ( talk) 21:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Recent vandalism now requires that you have a registered Wikipedia account to edit the page, effective until December 6th, 2007 (UTC).
If there are any repeat offenses from unregistered users after the lock is lifted, I will be forced to put a on a longer lock, or if necessary, a permanent lock (will last 1 year or longer) from unregistered users.
Thank you.
Mr Congeniality ( talk) 04:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)