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I was wondering whether it would be wise to add comments by Indian politicians and them blaming Pakistan for the unrest? many articles suggest that its this attitude of denial of home grown freedom movements which stoke the massacres we see so often in Indian-controlled Kashmir. 141.241.26.20 ( talk) 13:45, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Other reports suggest that issues dating back to 2010 where mass protests lead to many civilian deaths contributed to the current situation. While suggesting that India's continued dealing of the issue as law and order related while ignoring the deep rooted political aspirations of the people as a reason for the unrest and India’s failure to address Kashmir’s political issues coupled with dealing with protesters with deadly force will only continue the cycle of unrest. [1]
Could please show me where I have added original research ? did you bother reading the source I provided for the addition I made ? 141.241.26.20 ( talk) 15:27, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
"India’s reaction to this uprising and many in past has been to blame Pakistan. A minister of the Indian government accused Pakistan of interfering into India’s internal affairs. Kiren Rijiju, the union minister of state for home affairs, said, “[Pakistan] should worry [more] about human rights violations in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir than Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmir is an internal matter of India.” Additional troops were also sent to Kashmir, with New Delhi seeing the problem as a law and order issue, and ignoring the deep rooted political aspirations of the people. In the 2010 uprising, the Indian government sent a three-member team to assess the situation, but their report also didn’t address the deeper political issues.
India’s failure to address Kashmir’s political problem, while people only resorted to peaceful protests, has led to this new anger. This new generation of youth taking to the streets, different than any in past, will be committed to defying restrictions and facing the Indian soldiers’ bullets to make a political statement. Violence begets violence and soon many young boys may be inspired to follow in Wani’s path, seeking to lead Kashmir to a new political reality." 141.241.26.20 ( talk) 15:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
[Copied from Talk:Kashmir conflict - Kautilya3 ( talk) 00:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC)]
The current death toll in Kashmir is reported to be 41. [1]
I am new here and don't know how to summarize or cite in the proper format. For example, embedded references from Greater Kashmir and Rising Kashmir are included in the article quoted below. Other details were not clearly cited in the article, but are reflected in the websites for Greater Kashmir [2] and Rising Kashmir [3]. Hindustan Times adds a newer detail that the newspaper ban is for 3 days [4]. But the Times of India is outdated by 2 days [5].
I don't want to take responsibility for summarizing and editing, so the following is a verbatim quote from NDTV [6]: Srinagar: One more person died in firing by security forces after clashes in Kashmir on Saturday, taking the number of deaths in the violence triggered by the killing of terrorist Burhan Wani to 41. Cable TV services were suspended for more than 12 hours and newspapers have alleged a media gag. Here are the top 10 developments in the story:
One person was killed and two injured after security forces opened fire on a crowd when they attacked a police post in Kupwara district of north Kashmir. Small protests were reported in some parts of the Valley but the protesters were chased away by security personnel who resorted to baton charge, an official said. Journalists and editors sat on a protest in Srinagar after being told not to publish newspapers by authorities. From tomorrow, newspapers will not be sold on newsstands but online editions will continue, they said. Newspapers in Kashmir reported raids by police on their offices, arrest of employees and seizure of printing plates. Greater Kashmir, the largest circulated daily in the Valley, said around 50,000 copies of their newspaper were confiscated today. "This is a press emergency in Kashmir. This kind of gag is not the first but this time the government has formally banned us from publishing newspapers. We don't know when it will be lifted," said Shujat Bukhari, editor of Rising Kashmir. Senior government sources told NDTV that the gag was ordered because the distribution of the newspapers would mean movement of vehicles in violation of the eight-day long curfew in all 10 districts. Cellphone and internet services remained disabled in large parts of Kashmir to prevent the spread of rumours that could provoke violence. All telecom operators had been asked to suspend services yesterday. Cable operators said that they had been allowed to restore their services but warned not to carry Pakistani channels. "We have not received anything in writing but we were told to shut the operations. Police didn't given us any reason but we had to follow the order," Rufail Shafi, a cable operator, told NDTV. Amarnath Yatra, suspended amid the violence, resumed from Jammu today under tight security. More than 2,000 have been injured in violent protests that broke out after the killing of Burhan Wani, poster boy of Kashmir's new-age militancy, last Friday.
Some clarifying facts I am searching for are: how many of the 41 reported dead are authorities, and how many are civilians; and of the civilians, how many are protestors and how many are uninvolved bystanders; similarly, how many of the 2000 reported injured are authorities, and how many are civilians; and of the civilians, how many are protestors and how many are uninvolved bystanders. I am a nuetral foreigner located in Kashmir, currently with access to internet through broadband, but affected by extended curfews and strikes and lack of mobile service. My only access to news now is through neighborhood rumors (of both separatist sentiment and fear-of-separatist sentiment) and online news, so I am eager to see the facts collected here. Nomadshepherdess ( talk) 17:43, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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I wonder for what reason the list of dead civilians has been added. Articles about unrest or any fatal incident don't contain list of killed civilians. These people are not individually notable. As such I don't see any reason to add their names. The list should be removed. Do you agree? 117.214.245.178 ( talk) 19:19, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Ya Allah Help the khasmer Emy 15:06, 30 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inamelahi ( talk • contribs)
The editor who created and added a lot of text in this article has been confiremd to be a sockpuppet. He had been repeatedly editing some articles and shaping them according to a POV favourable to Kashmiris. This is also apparent here as the article seems to be favouring Kashmiri POV and is presenting them as victims all the while omitting other viewpoints which might not think so. The article also reads like a newspaper in several places. In fact you can clearly read the article to confirm so. A few examples of the above raised issues are:
I suggest this article be edited to show a neutral POV and be re-written in a proper Wikipedia style. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 21:32, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Ok I didn't know it was you who added it. But regardless POV should remain neutral and shouldn't belong to any one specific group. Besides I didn't say it contains "Kashmiri POV", I said it favours "Kashmiri POV" of the situation. The article seems biased. Also you're reasoning that it's bound to be like news seems unreasonable, it is quite easy to change the language of a sentence at least in this case. The language at several places does not seem in line with Wikipedia standards. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 22:34, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Coming to your objections stated above:
I never mistook you for the sock. I only thought the edits were by the sock, you should pay attention to what others are saying. Besides you are right at some points though the article at places does read like a non-neutral POV and like a newspaper. Language like becoming a household name is used by newspapers and common people, even if you what claim that the other sources too say this, you still have to follow proper language. For example simply change it to he had a wide reach among the Kashmiri youth. Some of what you present as a fact in the article are simply opinions of the authors. And I've already told you what I mean by "non-neutral POV" and "neutral POV". This is because this article seems highly biased in favour of Kashmiris and presents them as the victim. We are not here to do that. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 22:56, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
An anon editor rightly summarized some of the issues about the article I raised: improper usage of tenses and close paraphasing. To be even more short: proper format has not been followed. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 17:43, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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Newpsaper outlets have given up their protest against a ban against them and havr resumed printing on 21 July after a meeting with the state CM Mehbooba Mufti. Please add about the resumption of publishing of newspapers after a meeting between Mufti and editors of the outlets. Here is the source. Thank you. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Curfew has been lifted in 4 districts of Kashmir. Please add about this. Here is the source: [3]. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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There is curfew in whole valley on 13 day continuously and also not any kind of relaxation. Please read sources which are from Kashmir as they know better than anyone else in the world. The newspaper mentions "The police on Thursday categorically stated that curfew, which entered its 13th today, is on and that there shall be no relaxation in the curbs “till further orders.” Please see the sources [1]
Sleepersleep ( talk) 19:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Section is a blatant copyright violation. 2A00:11C0:9:794:0:0:0:5 ( talk) 03:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Kautilya3 can you explain why you think reaction of somebody with an important governmental post who is an ex-General has no business here yet you seem to add the reaction of an author basee on assertion that civil society counts in a democracy? I am not contesting you adding back Arundhati Roy's statement, I'm merely asking why do you think statement of person who is a recipient many prestigious official posts isn't as important as that of an author. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 17:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I've re-phrased Use of Pellet guns. Do you think it is ok to now remove the notice of close-paraphrasing? I believe I have solved it with the re-wording. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
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Important,Please Protect this page as some one has totally changed the article. Sentences and paragraphs have changed, which needs immediate attention. Changes done after (16:41, 22 July 2016 Kautilya3) needs deletion immediately.
Sleepersleep ( talk) 18:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
The article hasn't been totally changed so I don't understand what you are talking about. The only changes that have been made are addition of new events, updating of casualty counts, update of pellet injury counts, removal of unsourced content and re-phrasing of some sentences fof ot to better fit into Wikipedia's writing style. These are pretty normal changes that are made in articles. I don't see how that is a "total change". DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:57, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Saqib has added Pakistan in the infobox. But only parties directly involved in a conflict can be added without any special description. Any parties with indirect involvement for eg, like supporting must be mentioned with a special description. For eg, in this case Pakistan should be added under Kashmiri protesters and Kashmiri separatists like this:
"Kashmiri protesters
Kashniri separatists
Supported by:
Government of Pakistan"'"
Will it be ok if such a change is made in the infobox? DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Jammu & Kashmir's government is subordinate to the Indian government though. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 19:28, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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Then I suggest putting Government of J&K under Indian government and putting the army, CRPF and J&K police under Government of J&K. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 19:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm wondering what should be the motives and causes in the infobox. Here are my suggestions:
Causes
Goals
All suggestions are welcome. Thank you. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 20:21, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
That was a pretty good try! Here is a revised list: Causes
Goals
I think the mention of "Kashmir" is important in the last instance, because Jammu and Ladakh are not involved. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Seems alright, the only problem I have is with omittance of increasing radicalisation and home-grown militancy as a reason, even the article itself mentions it in the "Background" part. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 21:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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In the Causes, why is Pakistan sponsored Terrorism to disintegrate India not listed? That is the main reason. Indian soldiers retaliate because terrorists hide among the protesters and shoot Indian soldiers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.60.232.127 ( talk) 11:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Shouldn't the attacks on Kashmiri Pandits and Amarnath Yatra be included in the infobox? It is mentioned within the page though. solomonsunder 09:44, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Solomonsunder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solomonsunder ( talk • contribs)
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The date is written 15 July while as exact date is 8 July as far as curfew in kashmir is concerned. Please change the second paragraph accordingly after checking the proper references. Also read this complete paragraph, there are lot of mistakes as far as grammar is concerned, please change that also. Thanks
DnDamubit ( talk) 18:37, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Only "curfew-like" restrictions were imposed in Kashmir on 8 July. Many of the sources call it curfew-like but some sources mistakenly straightaway take it to be "curfew". It's not impossible for sources to sometimes be wrong and make simple mistakes. But all the sources say that curfew was imposed in "all areas" on 15 July and I haven't seen a single source contradicting that. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 00:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
How is this NPOV?
From the infobox:
Just asking. TuckerResearch ( talk) 01:21, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't doubt the accuracy of the claim those factors played a part in all this, but where is the mention of longstanding support for and apathy towards Islamic extremism in Kashmir? Surely that plays a part in radical militant leaders gaining power, and then being moved against and/or taken out in military operations(which would take place in any other civilized country). Then the unrest starts after the influential militant leader is killed. It does seem as if all the blame for this unrest is being laid at India's feet. It should be mentioned this is not a reaction to an unjustified killing or injustice. The factors listed previously do not lead people to engage in militancy on their own, there needs to be another factor which is not being listed. These young men in the streets(or forests of Kashmir) are encouraged to fight just as in Palestine, Egypt, etc. We've seen Israeli militants take up violence in the name of retaliation on behalf of Jews, encouraged by similar radical religious authorities as well. Part of this unrest is related to popular support for these kinds of extremist groups in Kashmir. It's not as if in the past year Kashmir has embraced something new and unfamiliar to them, maybe that should be mentioned. My intention is to be neutral, I believe in concrete facts and I despise those who use wikipedia for political/social reasons(all too common). But there is a glaring omission in the main article. This sentence sums it up in my view, "The communal polarisation in India and the violence targeting Muslims are widely discussed in Kashmiri homes." What isn't being discussed? Besides Pakistani interference, the ISI, Jamaat-i-Islami, violence targeting non Muslims, etc. You know, the reasons for "militarization in the streets". It's not as if a bunch of soldiers fell from the sky, they were all over as part of counter-insurgency operations because they can't rely on heavy weapons in densely populated terrain. Does this unrest reflect a reaction or an embrace? Either way I hope the violence ends soon. Forgive my inability to sign my posts properly I don't have an account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.166.49 ( talk) 15:30, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
User:DnDamubit you are making controversial changes based on your unilateral decisions. It is ironic that you tell others to talk but you yourselves haven't even made a single discussion on this article's talk page. You are instead constantly edit-warring.
Many sources are giving diffrrent drath toll. India Today says the latest is 56 while Dunya News presents it as far greater, 69 dead in this article. However do note the article is not neutral and uses disparaging language against Indian forces. Times of India in this article says the toll is 53. All sources however give the latest civilian death toll to be more than 50. I suggest we simply present the civilian death toll as 50+ instead of giving an accurate number. DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 10:24, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Someone recently added Asiya Andrabi in thr lead figures in infobox. However she hasn't been a significant part in the unrest like the other separatists Geelani, Farooq and Malik who have taken a regular part in the protests themselves, have given many statements against Indian security forces and on the shutdown. Asiya Andrabi doesn't seem to be involved in the protests and her role only seems to br limited to giving statements. Aside from her calling for a shutdown along with other separatists after Burhan's death, she has only given press statements which by rhe eay haven't recieved much attention, here are the links: [4], [5], [6].
I doubt she qualifies for being listed as a "lead figure". DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 11:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
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Pakistan
Please add this
Pakistan has been found to have fuelled and funded the unrest through monetary transactions to dubious Kashmiri accounts as exposed by India's NIA (National Investigation Agency).
Ashiya Nusrat ( talk) 07:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Firstly, "
evidently a factor" is OR. Where is the evidence of it as a factor? If the casus belli is Wani's death then that is a consequence of the actions of the state (ie- AFSPA). If religion was a factor then the PDP and BJP wouldn't be on the same side (see infobox). The factor is the issue of the state because the evidence of religious rhetoric is countered by state action (political reactions).
Further PDP and BJP also have Hindu and Muslims support, respectively.
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First of all this is battleground editing. "Last clean version" is the stable version that was existing prior to the contentious edits, which is what you have reinstated, not the "last clean version." You need to discuss your issues here, as per WP:BRD, and achieve consensus before reinstating your edits.
I have said that you are trying to counter RS by your OR. You are doing so when you claim that is a consequence of the actions of the state (ie- AFSPA)
(never mind that you haven't said which "state" you are referring to) and If religion was a factor then the PDP and BJP wouldn't be on the same side
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The "Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party" cannot be removed because it is sourced to RS. (The Ramachandran article is not an op-ed, The Diplomat is not a newspaper.) Moreover, the article was written in May 2016 long before Burhan Wani was killed. The experts have observed and commented on the dissatisfaction that was rising in Kashmir before any of this happened. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
"Blind reverts" are what happen when you make a series of POV edits without regard to policies or good justifications. You can't expect us to sift through every change you have made and tell you precisely what is wrong with each of them. When the edits are reverted, you need to raise here all the issues that concern you and achieve consensus on the changes you want to make. The burden for achieving WP:CONSENSUS rests on you, the editor who wants to make changes.
As for the Hindu/Muslim issue, which you started discussing but never concluded, the pressure of Hindu nationalism has been noted in multiple reliable sources. As for the Muslim sentiments,
Yes, I do get a bit disturbed but our Islam says that God, Quran and the Prophet are bigger than anything, even bigger and more important than our sons.Hence he supports his son fighting the Indian state.
In this continuing political conundrum, never before in Kashmir’s political history has the assertion of Kashmiri Muslim identity acquired more significance and prominence than it has now.He also says
For the Kashmiris Muslims, the rise of this forceful Hindu nationalism has also affected how they view the Indian state. In wake of this perceived adversity to their identity and survival, the rise of Indian nationalism has, consequently, reshaped Kashmiri Muslim identity as well.
The decision of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to join hands with the BJP to form a coalition government in J&K is unpopular and is widely seen by Kashmiris, including PDP supporters as a “betrayal” given the BJP’s anti-Muslim outlook and its commitment to revoke Article 370 of the Indian Constitution which confers special status on J&K.
Your OR that religion is not an issue is not supported by RS. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 17:45, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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I've made some fixes with WPCleaner (fixing Reference duplication - Spelling and typography - Date format in templates - Duplicate arguments in template calls). Ymblanter, could you please copy and paste this into the article? Dat Guy Talk Contribs 22:21, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Contents of intended new page removed for navigability. Text included categorization and sort not suitable for a talk page. — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 16:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
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I wanted to make the latest edition in the "Timeline of the unrest" section about today's events. Here it is:
"Two protesters were killed on 10 September in clashes with security forces. One of the deceased was killed in Shopian after being hit by a teargas shell while the other was killed in Anantnag when security forces used pellet guns on protesters. [1] DinoBambinoNFS ( talk) 18:31, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Daily Basis I request the administrator to make the update of the page date wise. So that it can help to understand well what happen in which date as Kashmir is very near to freedom from India due to worst unrest against Indian rule. This page will be highly cited later so that freedom movement of Kashmir can be recorded date wise by world community. JimeyTAG ( talk) 19:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
I notice that this article is currently a GA nominee. While I have not checked most of the criteria in any detail, an article needs to be stable in order to be passed as a GA: currently, this one is very far from being stable. I would suggest that the nomination be withdrawn, so everybody can focus instead on making improvements. Regards, Vanamonde ( talk) 04:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
The 2016 kashmir situation is famius because of its unique features which are very clear by reading different news editorials. Many call it kashmir intifada as is evident by searching the same in google. I have read many articles by this name and not burhan aftermath. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Himbi133 ( talk • contribs) 19:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3 and Fisaannath22: The same edit inserting this POV-charged name is persistently being restored by new users that just seem to be editing on one topic which then disappear and then mysteriously another account appears making the exact same edits - Enaam1232, Himbi133 & now Fisaannath22. The terminology they're pushing has not been used to describe the 2016 Kashmir unrest, except for Nawaz Sharif's calling it "another Kashimiri intifada", which isnt WP:RS & definitely doesn't warrant it to be mentioned in the introduction. -- Salma Mahmoud ( talk) 07:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hahaa, keeping a name to resumble a kashmiri does not change "pandit" perception which you have by changing from one name to another. Kutilya3 plz verify Salma Mahmoudl same DinoBanbinoNFS :DinoBambinoNFS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fisaannath22 ( talk • contribs) 14:17, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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@ Mfarazbaig: I am happy for you to mention the term Intifada lower down in the lead or in the body, and attribute it to specific sources. Prem Shankar Jha's view is quite valuable, but I am not sure it is universally shared. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:31, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
I undid the page renaming by User:3dsxl. He did not provide a reason for the renaming. Also the article states in in December the separatist relaxed the 2016 protests on the 14th and were planning separate protest for 2017 (that indicates there were 47 days in 2016 without protests), so creating a 2017 page would be better. The Soldier of Peace ( talk) 02:45, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
I came here to document the recent events of disturbance in Kashmir, in the article. The violence during the Srinagar by-election 2 days ago, [1] [2] and the clashes during a military operation in the end of the last month. [3] [4] But I noticed that the article specifies the timeline of the unrest as 8 July 2016 – 20 February 2017 (7 months, 1 week and 5 days). The end point of the unrest is sourced to a news event where the separatists called of their strike temporarily for Shivratri festival. [5] Though, there was a break in the unrest for some weeks, and the intensity of protests has decreased, the recent happenings clearly show that the unrest has certainly, at least, not ended. [6]
The region has seen heightened tension and increased unrest since July last year when influential militant Burhan Wani was killed by Indian forces. [7]
The present disturbances are apparently an extension of the 2016 unrest, if not reasonably specified otherwise by any reliable source. So I want to remove the end point of the timeline in the article and include the recent occurrences of Kashmir unrest. If any editor has any objections, or suggestions, please let me know. Thank you. — Tyler Durden ( talk) 13:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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The cause of this unrest needs to be changed to ISI funding. I have some RS below to back my point.
Intelleigence Bureau of India has concluded that ISI paid separatists and caused the Kashmir unrest. I have two RS below.
http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/8956-isi-s-budget-kashmir-stone-pelting-rs-1000cr
India today and AAJ tak also did a sting operation where stone pelters admitted to being paid. Another RS.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/jammu-and-kashmir-stone-pelters-hizbul-mujahideen-burhan-wani/1/915751.html Kushagr.sharma1 ( talk) 22:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
In its report, the IB states that an uprising was planned in the Valley by Pakistan much before July 2016. It also states that Hizbul Mujahideen militant Burhan Wani's encounter helped the ISI ignite rebellion across the Valley.Even the IB report says, though ISI planned an uprising much before July 2016, it clearly states Wani's killing was the starting point. And most importantly, above all, there are many number of independent reliable sources, some of them also available in the references of this article, that clearly say that Wani's killing sparked the present unrest. The lead of the article mentions the same as per WP:DUE. So please do not engage in WP:OR, and kindly self-revert. Regards, Tyler Durden ([[User talk: |talk]]) 07:57, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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Kautilya3,
I agree with the rationale for the order, it makes sense when you give the reasoning for it. As per the personal note I think it makes perfect sense why ISI would instigate given they have the perfect partner in pro-autonomy/indepedence PDP. PDP and BJP have been in a tussle over this uprising and the coalition has always been on a slippery slope. There is a reason why JK police is rarely attacked while the central CRPF is always the target. I wouldnt be surprised if PDP had some sort of understanding with ISI but then again this is nothing short of speculation or personal opinion. The violence in 1987 was also funded/fueled by pakistan and this is accepted by secondary sources and even by wikipedia. So the question is why wouldnt pakistan do it again when they have the perfect partner. Again I agree that there is no further analysis so far, therefore there is no use in adding a section.
Also thank you for your reply. This is the kind of discussion which makes wikipedia a better place. Kushagr.sharma1 ( talk) 03:53, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
The unrest associated with Burhan's death died down by February although most of it was already over some time before that. The tension created by it still lingers but the current situation is not due to it. The current unrest actually started primarily since the April 15 security raid [13] on a college. Also unlike the previous one where the separatists guided the protesters and issued regular schedules, there is little involvement of them in this one. In addition, even the protesting age groups are largely the youth including students whereas the last time every one was involved in good numbers including working-class. I suggest creation of a new article for the unrest starting in Summer 2017 as their is little connection between the two. 117.214.154.196 ( talk) 06:07, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the location of a source which is an India Today report. It was being used to claim that protesters are being funded by separatists. However there was no mention in the source about the separatists. Even the source clearly has the protesters upon whom it based its report on, saying they don't know who funds them and says they are provided money by "underground" people, referring to a secretive group, but no mention of separatists who anyway are not underground groups. I also changed some of the content in the same article wrongly claiming the report was accusing separatists of funding them. This is why I've made my edit. There are already other sources used for it anyway. So I hope you won't mind.
The person User:Kushagr.sharma1 who seems to have added this source made an edit with information of funding by Islamic fundamentalists which actually wasn't even there in the source. He also made a needless politcally-biased comment accusing the ruling PDP of potentially whipping up the unrest, baselessly accusing another editor in an uncivil comment just because he contradicted his claims, as well as needlessly accusing the article of bias when it was based on analysis of reliable sources and trying to place the ISI funding over others just so he could push his narrative of it being primarly motivated by Pakistan which he seems to believe per his comments. While claiming about neutrality, his own comments and edits throw doubts on his own. I suggest this user be monitored for npn-neutral edits and warned if needed.
Meanwhile as I said I've shifted the source and changed some of the content. Hope you won't mind. 117.199.80.237 ( talk) 18:22, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
The incidents during few initial months of the unrest are mentioned quite in detail while others only contain a sentence or two. I suggest cutting down the article by removing all non-notable incidents covered only by a few sources. Only notable details and major incidents which have been given a wide coverage should remain. 117.199.80.237 ( talk) 18:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Content added by Mfarazbaig [16] clearly violates WP:NOTNEWS, because we don't have to talk about minor clashes, internet shut down, train services, flag hosting, etc. instead just focus on the subject like other sections. Since the content was added by a paid editor, and his edits have been removed two times, better get consensus before reinserting them. D4iNa4 ( talk) 16:10, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
I propose we fork off Reactions to 2016–17 Kashmir unrest because this article is getting quite large. VR talk 19:03, 4 February 2019 (UTC)