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I have some doubts that the text:
is correct, though I have heard multiple media reports saying the same.
I had added text and this source here, that specifically says the 12 November 1995 avalanche that killed 42 people, one of a series that occurred around that time, was "... on the slopes of Mount Everest".
An IP editor, 72.87.103.201 ( talk · contribs) without a summary, changed it to read as I note above. I reverted it back based on the source I had. They re-reverted, with a summary saying "The 1995 disaster occurred NEAR Mount Everest".
Does anyone know more about the issue? I have not been able to find much on-line about the November 1995 events. N.b I am discussing the issue with the editor on their talkpage. -- 220 of Borg 07:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
I am not a content expert but this quote seems strangely formed:
The descriptor "large" is OUTSIDE the quote, so should it be inside the quote or is it the author's opinion and thus should be removed? It's incorrect the way it is and should be altered one way or the other but I don't know which way, so I won't edit it. Jefferson1957 ( talk) 06:40, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Reported location of fatalities was 5800 meters - less than 500 meters above Base Camp and more than 3000 meters below the peak of Mount Everest. The valley in which both Base Camp and the ice field are located no more belongs to Everest than it does to Hlotse, Nuptse, or any of the other peaks that surround it - particularly since it is well below their highest common elevation. I wasted a lot of time determining this - if only it had been reported as "adjacent", instead of stating it was "on" the mountain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.145.98 ( talk) 18:28, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, this was a serac collapse rather than an avalanche. What came down were house-sized blocks of ice from a hanging glacier on the western spur of Everest rather than the release of a snow slope. 24.108.28.165 ( talk) 18:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC) [1]
Yes this really should be fixed. It wasn't an avalanche in the literal sense as without a qualifier it means snow avalanche. I would suggest the page title is changed to 2014 Mount Everest Disaster. I'm going to change the text a little to reflect this but leave the title for now to see if anyone as a difference of opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim McElwaine ( talk • contribs) 10:44, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Ok so I made a load of changes, "avalanche" to "ice avalanche" or "disaster" and I also changed the name. There are still probably some inconsistencies to be fixed.
Am I missing something? If a guide typically earns US$125 per climb, to make US$5000 per year they would have to do 40 climbs each year. Each climb may take 10 days or more, and the climbing season(s) are fairly short. How does this add up? PhilUK ( talk) 20:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes you are missing something $125 a DAY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim McElwaine ( talk • contribs) 11:17, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
I think the paragraph 'Background' should be named to something more specific, since it only mentions the 'economic' aspects of the sherpa guides so to speak, and the aspects that surround it such as the tensions, competition with foreign guids etc. Maybe rename it "Background of sherpa deployment" or "Background of sherpas" or something like that?
Also, I think it's a little strange (un-encyclopedic) to start the article of with this subject referring to a lot of controversy, before even the factual information of the avalanche itself is given. I think it's better to start with the information about the avalanche itself, since that is what the article is about. Greetings, RagingR2 ( talk) 08:30, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
is this so that the deads were guiding or they were a carrier? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.143.71.39 ( talk) 14:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm only correcting style & format. If my edits corrupt facts, I sincerely apologize. However, this header paragraph is overwritten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erudite Manatee ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
can somebody find who were the dead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.143.71.39 ( talk) 16:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I seriously doubt this information is true. As far as I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), most (or maybe even all) Everest climbs are managed by a company called Asian Trekker. They charge 75-80k (or more) per person per climb. Some of it (like the $11k per person fee) goes to Nepal govt, some is spent on equipment and expenses. But there's still A LOT of money left. The organization is run by sherpas themselves. It just doesn't add up. I think NY Times relied on a bad source. Most likely, sherpas themselves, who don't want to publicize their real earnings. I think it should be reflected in the article that this calculation is only done by the newspaper in question and may be wrong. Same goes for "average salary in Nepal". I can't find any reliable information on that except some "self-serving" websites which calculate avg. salary from examples provided by users. Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 00:30, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't know a lot about how things work in Nepal, but why do the Sherpas family's think it's the government's job to compensate them for their loss? Did the government employ them, or coerce them to climb the mountain? Do they think the goverment should ban climbing Everest (which would cut off the best source of income the average Sherpa has), and because they failed to do this, they therefore owe the families cash to make up for the lost income (which they wouldn't have been expecting if the government had banned climbing Everest). AnnaGoFast ( talk) 01:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)