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This page will soon be much more active. I just wanted to get a stub started. IanWright ( talk) 22:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC) need criticism.rather than global institution we need to go back to govt issued money and full reserve banking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.8.153 ( talk) 08:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't believe that self-published sources from the LaRouche movement should be used to assert that he created the proposal that these politicians are debating, or even that their proposal is the same as his. Further, even if we did mention him in the article he should not be the centerpiece of this article. His "New Bretton Woods" proposal is covered already in Views of Lyndon LaRouche#New Bretton Woods. We can add a "see also" to refer readers there. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 17:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Boodlesthecat speaks of the Corriere article, saying "one off comment in local paper is not encyclopedia quality." Now according to the Wikipedia article Corriere della Sera, it became in the 1920s "the most widely read newspaper in Italy, maintaining its importance and influence to this day." The cited material is not an "off comment," but the central point of the article, which focusses on the views of Italy's Economics Minister, hardly an inconsequential person, and recognized worldwide as a leading proponent of the Bretton Woods II concept. And he says that in his view, LaRouche is the original author of the Bretton Woods II proposal, which is, after, the subject of the article we're discussing. So please tell me, what is it about this material that is "not encyclopedia quality"? -- Guillermo Ugarte ( talk) 06:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I see 208 Google News results for 'tremonti "bretton woods" -larouche" [3]. And I see 228 when I allow mention of LaRouche with 'tremonti "Bretton woods"' [4]. Where did those extra sources come from? CounterPunch- bad enough, EIR- awful... then a multitude of LaRouche fundraising 'Solidarity Parties' worldwide. [5] Nobody cares about LaRouche. John Nevard ( talk) 00:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
On another note, are those who seek to add the extended reference to the Italian newspaper confident that the link in question is, at the very minimum, a piece of original news reporting rather than an editorial or opinion article? John Nevard ( talk) 04:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm seeing a lot of descriptions of proposals of this sort as a "New Bretton Woods". Compare Google News results for N.B.W in mainstream sources [6] to results for BWII [7] and BW2 [8]. Accordingly, I'm redirecting 'New Bretton Woods' to this article. John Nevard ( talk) 22:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
How does this avoid being more than a simple neologism? This in turn means it may not be something more than a passing phenemenon. If, and when, something concrete comes out it will, in all likelihood, have a new name. The Washington Pact? The Washington Compromise? The Washington Treaty II? Or another compact/treaty name. In the meanwhile, the little documentation for the term alone can be tacked onto Bretton Woods the same axis of evil talks of the alternatives. Lihaas ( talk) 12:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
To avoid coining a new name, what is stopping this article from being moved to, off the top of my head, "2008 G20 Summit" ? doktorb words deeds 13:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I cleaned the article (mainly structure, grammatical tense) and moved it from Bretton Woods II to 2008 G-20 Leaders Summit on Financial Markets and the World Economy. Haven't done something on the English Wikipedia for quite a while, but couldn't believe in which poor state this important article was. Hope I did not insert to much language mistakes. -- Abe Lincoln ( talk) 23:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
There already was G20-summit in 2008 (in Sao Paolo), this irregular summit is the second one, so you should move it back or to for instance to 2008 G-20 summit in Washington. -- Abe Lincoln ( talk) 23:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
This is certainly a good idea but I note that the date is missing (although the edit page shows an unsuccessful attempt was made to add it as November 15 to 16, 2008). According to the White House site, the dates of the meeting were November 14-15, 2008. I suggest these must be correct. See header on [9] - Ipigott ( talk) 12:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi , this is a great article but while the Washington G20 was very successful in achieving agreement for the concerted use of Keynesian stimulus plans, it didn't move us forward in terms of reform of global institutions a la Bretton Woods. Prominent calls for Bretton Woods II are still very much in evidence as of March 2009. Considering the significance of this subject i thought it might be nice to have an article more focussed on calls the new Bretton Woods. Some editors don't seem to like potential neologisms so i've called the article International Monetary Systems which makes it logical to have a helpfull a history section putting BW II in context with the older monetary orders. I hope you guys don't mind if I link the Bretton Woods II redirect to the new article. There's a lot of chat in the press about clamping down on tax havens, further boosts to global demand etc, but in serious circles the talks seems to be all about Bretton Woods II. Its all im hearing. FeydHuxtable ( talk) 21:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Were there any protests during the 2008 summit, like the ones in 2009? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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