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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move. Clear consensus for a move and
Álmos has the most support. A disambiguation page exists, but as there are
only two entries, this article will be moved to the base title as suggested; if this article ends up not being the primary topic, discussion can reopen. Either way, the consensus here is clearly that disambiguators involving his title are not adequate given the uncertainty.
Cúchullaint/
c 15:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)reply
I would support the move, as per the above reasons. However, I think the title "Álmos of Hungary" would also be misleading, because Hungary is a highly debatable concept in connection with him. What about "Álmos"?
Borsoka (
talk) 02:01, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Comment I think the use of the word 'Hungary' is misleading, his proper title would be perhaps "Almos of Etelkoz". I think Álmos, Grand Prince of the Hungarians would be the best solution (per WP:COMMONNAME). He was the first known Grand Prince therefore we should emphasize his rank IMO.
Fakirbakir (
talk) 08:48, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
I however can agree with the simple Álmos form.
Fakirbakir (
talk) 15:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Okay, I also accept Álmos. --
Norden1990 (
talk) 18:00, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
"Álmos" is also fine with me.
KœrteFa{ταλκ} 18:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Note: I changed the requested move from "Álmos of Hungary" to "Álmos". --
Norden1990 (
talk) 20:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Support "Álmos". As per above.
Borsoka (
talk) 02:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Support "Álmos" or "Álmos of Hungary". I agree with Norden1990 --
Csendesmark (
talk) 01:24, 27 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Support "Álmos" per above.
bd2412T 14:39, 3 September 2013 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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I'll be glad to take this one. I hope to have comments posted in the next few hours. Thanks as always for your work, Borsoka. --
Khazar2 (
talk) 18:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC)reply
As a side note, this may be the first time I've had a chance to review an article with actual Khazars in it, which I'm quite excited about. (My own username comes not from ethnic heritage but a previous obsession with Pavic's Dictionary of the Khazars.) --
Khazar2 (
talk) 19:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)reply
Dear Khazar2, thank you for your review. Please find my comments below.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Okay, this looks good so far. I've posted some initial comments below.
" sacred ruler or kende of the Hungarians, their military leader or gyula" -- this is a little confusing. Do you mean that these are the four possibilities for what he could have been? Or that ruler/kende are synonyms, as are military leader/gyula?
can it be clarified what the origin of the infobox image is
File:Almos2.jpg?
Thanks. Deleted (Sorry, I cannot answer the question. Furthermore, it is not the best quality picture.)
Borsoka (
talk) 02:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
" Gyula Kristó[11] and Victor Spinei" -- it would help to give a word of context on these two. Could you add something like "Historians Gyula..."
Thanks. Fixed.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
"as it is proposed by Kristó" -- do you mean that the preceding sentence is Kristo's theory? Or that he also proposed the name?
Thanks. Fixed.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
"Early life" -- seems like a bit of a misnomer for this section, which entirely deals with events before his birth
Thanks. Modiefied.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
" that his election was initiated by the Khazar khagan." -- is the "his" here Arpad or Almos?
Thanks. Fixed.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
"Gyula Kristó and many other historians" -- only Kristo appears to be cited here. Does she/he mention the other historians, too?
Thanks. A reference to an enncyclopedia is added.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
"our word an our command." -- should this be "and"?
Thanks. Fixed.
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Thanks. Deleted (Sorry, I cannot answer the question. Furthermore, it is not the best quality picture.)
Borsoka (
talk) 03:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline.
2b.
reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
infobox image needs a caption explaining the image's origin
7. Overall assessment.
Pass
I've removed another image from the article; since Ukraine doesn't have freedom of panorama, it's not clear that a picture of a sculpture is uncopyrighted until we have more information about the sculpture's origins, which wasn't readily available. With this image cut, the article is ready to pass. --
Khazar2 (
talk) 14:17, 1 November 2013 (UTC)reply