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* ... that '''[[Raymond Bushland]]''' and [[Edward F. Knipling]] won the 1992 [[World Food Prize]] for developing the [[sterile insect technique]] which eliminated parasitic [[Cochliomyia hominivorax|screw-worms]] from the United States?
* ... that John Bunker was inspired to propagate old apple tree varieties after encountering Black Oxford apples while managing the
food co-op in
Belfast, Maine?
* ... that '''[[John Bunker]]''' was inspired to propagate old apple tree varieties after encountering Black Oxford apples while managing the [[Food cooperative|food co-op]] in [[Belfast, Maine]]?
* ... that the '''[[New York Savings Bank Building]]''' later became "The Grand Palais of Rugs" and the "Temple of Food"?
* ... that in November 2022,
Leicester City Council used the Food Act 1984 in combination with a royal charter of 1199 to levy a charge on the organisers of two Christmas light switching-on events?
* ... that in November 2022, [[Leicester City Council]] used the '''[[Food Act 1984]]''' in combination with a royal charter of 1199 to levy a charge on the organisers of two Christmas light switching-on events?
:An [[Integrated Food Security Phase Classification]] (IPC) report states that over 755,000 people in [[Sudan]] face the most severe IPC level of extreme hunger as well as the worst levels of acute food insecurity ever recorded in the country. [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/27/over-750000-people-in-sudan-at-risk-of-starvation-global-hunger-monitor (Al Jazeera)]
:A panel of the [[United States Food and Drug Administration]] rejects [[MDMA-assisted psychotherapy]] as a treatment for [[PTSD]]. [https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/06/04/nx-s1-4991112/mdma-therapy-ptsd-fda-advisors (NPR)]
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The above improvements were reverted in a series of drive-by edits portal reversions performed by a user on 12 October 2019 (
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Minor ce in header, rw to: "A portal dedicated to food and foodways". The portal's scope deals with food as well as foodways. Added banner images to the top of the portal, which serves to enhance its visual layout.
Added a link to
Portal:Food/Selected article, using "{{Box-footer|[[Portal:Food/Selected article|More selected articles]]...}}".
Vast numbers of articles about dishes link to the "Cookbook" at Wikibooks for the recipe... and you're lucky if 1% of the links lead to actual recipes. Try it with practically any Wikipedia article on any dish. A "Cookbook:" link in the infobox above the link to "Media:". Click on the link: "No results found for Cookbook: (whatever you were hoping to find)."
I mean, it's been this way for 10 years now, and it's disgraceful. The Food editors at Wikipedia have added thousands of links to "Cookbook" recipes... which actually existed long ago... until the powers-that-be at Wikibooks decided to delete the whole lot of them. The thousands of links have been leading to nonexistent recipes all these years.
This failure to coordinate between wiki tribes is a massive embarrassment to the entire project. Why has it stayed at this impasse for so many years? Either add the recipes to "Cookbook" or delete the useless links.
Johanna-Hypatia (
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00:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Totally agree. I am new to the Cookbook project (though not a new Wiki editor). I see no links anywhere to the Cookbook. Why is that? Has there been a consensus to eliminate the Cookbook from Wiki food pages and vice-versa? I'd like to help restoring the links, but I don't see any link, faulty or otherwise. I put some links (provisionally) on the
Rhubarb page, just to see how it works. What should we do? It seems eerie that there are no links from any food page to an actual recipe. I'm thinking after, say, two weeks (is that a reasonable amount of time?), if there is no response, I'll start adding links to Wikipedia in a == Cookbook == section between 'See also' and 'References' (after References seems a bit too far away, as people tend to stop scrolling right before References) and links in the Cookbook to the relevant Wikipedia pages (see
Cookbook:Rhubarb pie).
WikiUser70176 (
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14:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
EDIT: The Cookbook declined to have any links on the recipe pages (so the rhunbarb pie links in the example above have been deleted). The argument is that the Wiki Cookbook should be "self-contained resource to be as useful for reading offline as it is when reading from the website." I pointed out that whereas, a priori, a book is indeed a self contained object, a Wikibook is also a digital book, therefore links not only are useful but they can speed up and enhance the digital experience of finding information, without taking anything away from the paper experience. But such a drastic change to the Wikibooks project guidelines is way above my Wiki paygrade, so the only hope that remains to add recipes to dishes is here, on Wikipedia, by linking to the Cookbook's pages. Thanks to everybody for their thoughts on the matter!
WikiUser70176 (
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18:40, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
It may be appropriate to add a link, perhaps using {{Wikibooks}}, within the "External links" section (or within "References" if no EL section).
WP:SIS has useful guidance on when, how and where to link.
Certes (
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16:03, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
The "References" idea is good in principle, but the practice, the implementation might be a bit cumbersome. I mean, to put the links in the "References", one has to mention them within the article text, right? That may work when you have only a few recipes for an ingredient like said rhubarb, but what do you do with cabbage, where you have dozens of dishes? The {{{Wikibooks}}} box is a good idea though! We can have both: a few links with examples of dishes (say, three examples, the most common or whatever) and for whoever wants more recipes, they can click on the Cookbook box. As for "External Links", I'm all for it! The only quibble I have with that is that most people stop scrolling just before "References", so the "External Links" will be totally ignored if it is after References, particularly if the References section is long. So, if we put these "External Links" with the recipes from the Wikicookbook before References, that may be more useful. After all, chances are that somebody who reads the entry on, say Jambalaya or Bolognese Sauce, might be more interested to see how it's made than to find the original source of some obscure cultural event associated with the dish. So EL before R, I'd suggest.
WikiUser70176 (
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18:59, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Although it might appear in the References section, this isn't a reference and should not be cited to support any of the text (partly because it's not a
reliable source).
WP:SIS explains how and when to add a link like the one on the right.
Certes (
talk)
22:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)reply
What is the proper name for the round bread served open facedwith cream cheese. Popular with e,g., spreadable cheese and toppings of olives, crushed potato chips, etc.?
24.241.233.129 (
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15:11, 27 February 2023 (UTC)reply