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Just a head's-up that I'm staying out of this one. Productive discussions are ongoing at WT:Today's featured article/April 2024#1984 world snooker championship. - Dank ( push to talk) 00:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

For Børsen perhaps we can do better than bland "catches fire". Suggest "is severely damaged by a fire". Brandmeister ^talk 19:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Good call, done. Step hen 20:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• "... that the first field goal of Jake Bates's life was the second-longest in professional football history?"

Oh, American football! Not real football... Fram ( talk) 10:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Fram: I was going to correct this, but then I wondered what to correct it to... American football? Gridiron? The source is [1], and it just says "professional football"... (and the article is from "HawgBeat"... is that even a reliable source?). As a separate point, I'm slightly uneasy about the "first in his life" wording. I mean the guy must have kicked some field goals on the training field and so on... or even in games outside of the high school / college / professional axis. I feel like a bit more precision is required. Pinging @ BeanieFan11, Storye book, Bruxton, and RoySmith: as the DYK's principals, for some feedback here.  —  Amakuru ( talk) 13:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

... that the first recorded field goal of Jake Bates's life was the second-longest in professional football history?

... that the first officially-recorded field goal of Jake Bates's life was the second-longest in professional football history? Storye book ( talk) 13:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

My bad for not catching that. Yeah, it should say "American". I know that's not in the source, but it's clearly implied. How about:

• ... that Jake Bates's first recorded field goal was the second-longest in American football history?

RoySmith (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Probably had "recorded" ones in the preseason. Unqualified "American football" is wrong, as there's been longer ones at the college level. [2] — Bagumba ( talk) 14:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

And his 64-yarder actually tied one hit in 2013 by Matt Prater. I'll leave it to others whether "tied" needs to be in the hook. [3] — Bagumba ( talk) 14:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't understand the sport - but is any of the hook true? Secretlondon ( talk) 15:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

There's enough problems here that I've pulled the hook, so we can work this out without a ticking clock over our heads. This leaves 8 hooks in this set, which is fine. I was going to pull up the West Georgia Wolves football hook from Prep 1, but that's verbose enough that I think it also needs some work. RoySmith (talk) 15:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Fram, Amakuru, Storye book, RoySmith, Bagumba, and Secretlondon: What about: ... that the first field goal Jake Bates ever made in a game was the second-longest in professional American football history? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 15:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ RoySmith: The West Georgia hook is also mine; what's wrong with it? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 15:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ BeanieFan11: The last hook above looks OK to me. Storye book ( talk) 15:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

By the time we're talking about "the second-longest in professional American football history" it's more like a novel than a hook. Anyway, my suggestion is to work it out on the nom page where there's no time pressure. RoySmith (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ RoySmith: "it's more like a novel than a hook" – the hook is only 122 characters long (/200) and doesn't seem all that crazy to me. IMO we could also remove the "American" part since there's no field goals made in association football - we could link professional gridiron football if needed: ... that the first field goal Jake Bates ever made in a game was the second-longest in professional football history? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 16:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Please pick this up on the nom page, thanks. RoySmith (talk) 16:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Please hyphenate the compound modifier to read "damselfly-relative Okanagrion". Thanks. JMCHutchinson ( talk) 17:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Two opportunities for better link clarity: the links should be extended to "competed in an international competition" and "their opponent's stadium". —  RAVENPVFF · talk · 15:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Done as consistent with MOS:MORELINKWORDS. Though I'd argue to just unlink "their opponent's stadium" altogether, as it's not needed to understand the hook, and leaves something for the body. — Bagumba ( talk) 16:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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