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Why are the BMT trains shown as numbers? If this is some internal subway designation it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Please make them the regular route names (when you click on "1", for example, under the BMT it takes you to the Q train). —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlastOButter42 ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Could someone clarify the current sort order ( N Q R W • 1 2 3 • L • G • A C E • 7 • 4 5 6 • J M Z • B D F V) please? It would appear to the casual reader that 1 2 3 • 4 5 6 • 7 • A C E • B D F V • G • J M Z • L • N Q R W , or a straightforward alphanumeric ordering, would make more sense, so they are arranged this way for a reason. What is the reason? Chris cheese whine 23:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Why have colors been added to this navbox? The line letter should not be represented with colors, for reasons already given here. Larry V ( talk | contribs) 06:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
This section does NOT belong there, because it is not related to the NYC Subway. I am requesting a consensus on this before deleting it from the navbox. AEMoreira042281 13:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I have added a free-use picture to the template, taken by contributor The Port of Authority. This is not a copyrighted picture. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 05:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Section is meaningless. 70.23.53.169 ( talk) 23:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
This template consolidates the information. Currently it would seem that S is just a sort of throwaway instead of an actual service of NYCS Here is my idea:
{{navbox | name = New York City Subway | image = [[Image:Rector Street (BMT Broadway Line) by David Shankbone.jpg|80px]]<br>[[Image:NYCS BMT Brighton Beach.jpg|80px]]<br>[[Image:Castle Hill Avenue (IRT Pelham Line) by David Shankbone.jpg|80px]]<!-- NEXT PICTURE: an IND station in Queens (not represented yet) --> | title = [[New York City Subway]] | group1 = [[List of New York City Subway services|Services]] | list1 = {{nowrap begin}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[1 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>1</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[2 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>2</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[3 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>3</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[4 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>4</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[5 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>5</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[6 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>6</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|purple}}|[[7 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>7</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[A (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>A</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[B (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>B</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[C (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>C</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[D (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>D</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[E (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>E</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[F (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>F</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|lightgreen}}|[[G (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>G</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|brown}}|[[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>J</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|gray}}|[[L (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>L</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|brown}}|[[M (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>M</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[N (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>N</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[Q (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>Q</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[R (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>R</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|darkgray}}|[[S (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>S</span>]]}} <small>[[42nd Street Shuttle|42 St]] </small>·<small> [[Franklin Avenue Shuttle|Franklin]] </small>·<small> [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|Rockaway]] </small> {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[V (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>V</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[W (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>W</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|brown}}|[[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>Z</span>]]}} {{nowrap end}} | group2 = Unused<br>or defunct | list2 = [[8 (New York City Subway service)|8]]{{·}} [[9 (New York City Subway service)|9]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|10{{·}} 11{{·}} 12{{·}} 13]]{{·}} [[K (Eighth Avenue Local)|AA]]{{·}} [[B (New York City Subway service)|BB]]{{·}} [[C (New York City Subway service)|CC]]{{·}} [[E (New York City Subway service)|EE (8 Avenue)]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|EE (Broadway)]]{{·}} [[G (New York City Subway service)|GG]]{{·}} [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|H]]{{·}} [[HH (Court Street Shuttle)|HH (Court Street)]]{{·}} [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|HH (Rockaway Park)]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|JJ]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|K (Broadway)]]{{·}} [[K (Eighth Avenue Local)|K (8 Avenue)]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|KK]]{{·}} [[L (New York City Subway service)|LL]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|MJ]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|NX]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|P]]{{·}} [[Q (New York City Subway service)|QB]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|QJ]]{{·}} [[Q (New York City Subway service)|QT]]{{·}} [[R (New York City Subway service)|RJ{{·}} RR]]{{·}} [[T (New York City Subway service)|T{{·}} TT]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|U{{·}} X{{·}} Y]]{{·}} [[JFK Express]] {{Navbox subgroup | group1 = [[Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation|BMT]] | list1 = [[Q (New York City Subway service)|1]]{{·}} [[R (New York City Subway service)|2]]{{·}} [[T (New York City Subway service)|3]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|4]]{{·}} [[Culver Shuttle|5]]{{·}} [[6 (BMT rapid transit service)|6]]{{·}} [[Franklin Avenue Shuttle|7]]{{·}} [[BMT Astoria Line|8]]{{·}} [[IRT Flushing Line|9]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|10]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|11]]{{·}} [[12 (BMT rapid transit service)|12]]{{·}} [[13 (BMT rapid transit service)|13]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|14]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|15]]{{·}} [[L (New York City Subway service)|16]] | group2 = Shuttles (S/SS) | list2 = [[63rd Street Shuttle|63rd Street]]{{·}} [[Bowling Green–South Ferry Shuttle|Bowling Green]]{{·}} [[Culver Shuttle|Culver]]{{·}} [[Grand Street Shuttle|Grand Street]]{{·}} [[S (New York City Subway service)|Other]]}} | group3 = Capital projects | list3 = [[7 Subway Extension]]{{·}} [[Fulton Street Transit Center]]{{·}} [[Second Avenue Subway]] | group4 = Divisions | list4 = {{nowrap begin}}[[A Division (New York City Subway)|A Division]] ([[Interborough Rapid Transit Company|IRT]]){{·w}} [[B Division (New York City Subway)|B Division]] ([[Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation|BMT]]{{·}} [[Independent Subway System|IND]]){{nowrap end}} | group5 = [[List of New York City Subway stations|Stations]] | list5 = {{Navbox subgroup | group1 = Boroughs | list1 = [[List of New York City Subway stations in the Bronx|The Bronx]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Brooklyn|Brooklyn]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Manhattan|Manhattan]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Queens|Queens]] | group2 = Types | list2 = [[List of closed New York City Subway stations|Closed]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway terminals|Terminals]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway transfer stations|Transfer stations]] }} | group6 = Other lists | list6 = [[List of New York City Subway inter-division connections|Inter-division connections]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway lines|Lines]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway services|Services]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway yards|Yards]] | group7 = Miscellaneous | list7 = [[Staten Island Railway]]{{·}} [[Automation of the New York City Subway|Automation]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway chaining|Chaining]]{{·}} [[History of the New York City Subway|History]]{{·}} [[New York City transit fares|Fares]]{{·}} [[MetroCard (New York City)|MetroCard]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway nomenclature|Nomenclature]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway rolling stock|Rolling stock]]{{·}} [[Proposed New York City Subway expansion (1929–1940)|Proposed expansion (1929–1940)]]{{·}} [[Train of Many Colors]] }}
Generally, as a matter of layout, I prefer the shuttles seperate. Putting the plain text links to each shuttle article in the top section breaks up the layout too much and looks sloppy. That said, I wonder if having the "S" icon only once, by the general S (New York City Subway service) link on the left would look better and more concise while allowing the general article to stand out more. oknazevad ( talk) 07:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
{{navbox | name = New York City Subway | image = [[Image:Rector Street (BMT Broadway Line) by David Shankbone.jpg|80px]]<br>[[Image:NYCS BMT Brighton Beach.jpg|80px]]<br>[[Image:Castle Hill Avenue (IRT Pelham Line) by David Shankbone.jpg|80px]]<!-- NEXT PICTURE: an IND station in Queens (not represented yet) --> | title = [[New York City Subway]] | group1 = [[List of New York City Subway services|Services]] | list1 = {{nowrap begin}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[1 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>1</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[2 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>2</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|red}}|[[3 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>3</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[4 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>4</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[5 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>5</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|green}}|[[6 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>6</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|purple}}|[[7 (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>7</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[A (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>A</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[B (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>B</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[C (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>C</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[D (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>D</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|blue}}|[[E (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>E</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[F (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>F</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|lightgreen}}|[[G (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>G</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|brown}}|[[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>J</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|gray}}|[[L (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>L</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|orange}}|[[M (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>M</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[N (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>N</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[Q (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>Q</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|yellow}}|[[R (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: black>R</span>]]}} {{·wrap}} {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|brown}}|[[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>Z</span>]]}} {{nowrap end}} {{Navbox subgroup | group1 = {{color box|#{{rcr|NYCS|darkgray}}|[[S (New York City Subway service)|<span style="color: white>S</span>]]}} [[S (New York City Subway service)|Shuttles]] | list1 = [[42nd Street Shuttle|42nd Street]]{{·}} [[Franklin Avenue Shuttle|Franklin Avenue]]{{·}} [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|Rockaway Park]] }} | group2 = Unused<br>or defunct | list2 = [[8 (New York City Subway service)|8]]{{·}} [[9 (New York City Subway service)|9]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|10{{·}} 11{{·}} 12{{·}} 13]]{{·}} [[K (Eighth Avenue Local)|AA]]{{·}} [[B (New York City Subway service)|BB]]{{·}} [[C (New York City Subway service)|CC]]{{·}} [[E (New York City Subway service)|EE (8 Avenue)]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|EE (Broadway)]]{{·}} [[G (New York City Subway service)|GG]]{{·}} [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|H]]{{·}} [[HH (Court Street Shuttle)|HH (Court Street)]]{{·}} [[Rockaway Park Shuttle|HH (Rockaway Park)]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|JJ]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|K (Broadway)]]{{·}} [[K (Eighth Avenue Local)|K (8 Avenue)]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|KK]]{{·}} [[L (New York City Subway service)|LL]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|MJ]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|NX]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|P]]{{·}} [[Q (New York City Subway service)|QB]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|QJ]]{{·}} [[Q (New York City Subway service)|QT]]{{·}} [[R (New York City Subway service)|RJ{{·}} RR]]{{·}} [[T (New York City Subway service)|T{{·}} TT]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|U]]{{·}} [[V (New York City Subway service)|V]]{{·}} [[W (New York City Subway service)|W]]{{·}} [[Unused New York City Subway service labels|X{{·}} Y]]{{·}} [[JFK Express]] {{Navbox subgroup | group1 = Shuttles | list1 = [[63rd Street Shuttle|63rd Street]]{{·}} [[Bowling Green–South Ferry Shuttle|Bowling Green]]{{·}} [[Culver Shuttle|Culver]]{{·}} [[Grand Street Shuttle|Grand Street]]{{·}} [[S (New York City Subway service)|Other]] | group2 = [[Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation|BMT]] | list2 = [[Q (New York City Subway service)|1]]{{·}} [[R (New York City Subway service)|2]]{{·}} [[T (New York City Subway service)|3]]{{·}} [[N (New York City Subway service)|4]]{{·}} [[Culver Shuttle|5]]{{·}} [[6 (BMT rapid transit service)|6]]{{·}} [[Franklin Avenue Shuttle|7]]{{·}} [[BMT Astoria Line|8]]{{·}} [[IRT Flushing Line|9]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|10]]{{·}} [[M (New York City Subway service)|11]]{{·}} [[12 (BMT rapid transit service)|12]]{{·}} [[13 (BMT rapid transit service)|13]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|14]]{{·}} [[J/Z (New York City Subway service)|15]]{{·}} [[L (New York City Subway service)|16]] }} | group3 = Capital projects | list3 = [[7 Subway Extension]]{{·}} [[Fulton Street Transit Center]]{{·}} [[Second Avenue Subway]] | group4 = Divisions | list4 = {{nowrap begin}}[[A Division (New York City Subway)|A Division]] ([[Interborough Rapid Transit Company|IRT]]){{·w}} [[B Division (New York City Subway)|B Division]] ([[Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation|BMT]]{{·}} [[Independent Subway System|IND]]){{nowrap end}} | group5 = [[List of New York City Subway stations|Stations]] | list5 = {{Navbox subgroup | group1 = Boroughs | list1 = [[List of New York City Subway stations in the Bronx|The Bronx]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Brooklyn|Brooklyn]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Manhattan|Manhattan]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway stations in Queens|Queens]] | group2 = Types | list2 = [[List of closed New York City Subway stations|Closed]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway terminals|Terminals]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway transfer stations|Transfer stations]] }} | group6 = Other lists | list6 = [[List of New York City Subway inter-division connections|Inter-division connections]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway lines|Lines]]{{·}} [[List of New York City Subway yards|Yards]] | group7 = Miscellaneous | list7 = [[Staten Island Railway]]{{·}} [[Automation of the New York City Subway|Automation]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway chaining|Chaining]]{{·}} [[History of the New York City Subway|History]]{{·}} [[New York City transit fares|Fares]]{{·}} [[MetroCard (New York City)|MetroCard]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway nomenclature|Nomenclature]]{{·}} [[New York City Subway rolling stock|Rolling stock]]{{·}} [[Proposed New York City Subway expansion (1929–1940)|Proposed expansion (1929–1940)]]{{·}} [[Train of Many Colors]] }}
The temporary H shuttle is a replacement for a portion of the A. So, we have to move the H from the Unused section to the Services section, but not to delete the link to the Rockaway Park Shuttle. I will try to do it. Vcohen ( talk) 16:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
To Frietjes: You say, "if you want H to point to A, then change the redirect". Unfortunately, it's impossible. The H is, first of all, the internal designation of the Rockaway Park Shuttle, and all its history is the history of that shuttle. Therefore its redirect must go to the shuttle. Now, temporarily, the letter H is used for a temporary route that replaces a part of the A, but it is not a reason to change the redirect and ignore the whole history of the H. Vcohen ( talk) 17:50, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't find the IRT Ninth Avenue elevated in this template, and I believe this is correct - it was not succeeded by a subway line (except, if memory serves, some track in far northern Manhattan was repurposed). Hence I don't believe Ninth Avenue derailment belongs here, unless the template is to be renamed to include the non-integrated elevated lines in Manhattan. Yngvadottir ( talk) 12:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
The Mass Transit Super Bowl article should be moved to the History section, shouldn't it? Vcohen ( talk) 12:35, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Would it be best to sort the lines by color instead of alphabetical order? It may make much more sense visually to the wikipedia reader to see it like this. If nobody gets back within a week, I may do it myself. RES2773 ( talk) 01:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)RES2773
I made an edit which changed the cut off point for the two groups of defunct designations from 1979 to 1985. It was reverted, and I have since changed it back. I don't think it really matters which cutoff we use, however many of the routes listed under the defunct pre-1979 group were in existence from 1979-1985. If people want to keep using 1979 as the cutoff, I have no objections, however if we do, the AA, CC, GG, LL, QB, and RR must be moved into the post-1979 group. (I don't really feel strongly about this, but I suggest that if we do decide to make 1979 the cutoff, the double letter routes put into the post 1979 box should be formatted consistently with the other routes there too.)