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The correct spelling of the Oldupai Gorge might be a point for dispute. Most people know it as the Olduvai Gorge which is nothing but incorrect. Oldupai is the Massai name for the sisal plant which is found there and that is why it is called the Oldupai Gorge. Anybody who has been on a Safari in Serengeti would know this since the rangers there make sure to explain the correct name. --Durst 10:57, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
isn't this the exact same article as the article entitled "the serengeti" correct me if i am wrong. -- rburp
Even though the correct spelling of Sisal after which the gorge is named is Oldupai, the spelling in common usage to describe the gorge itself is Olduvai (even on the official signs of the NCAA) as the mistake has now been going on for so long that it is senseless to try to correct it. As such it may be worth while to note the original and 'correct' spelling but still use the 'v' spelling. Non of us living in Tanzania would ever spell it as Oldupai. Maa was not a written language until recently which is how the difficulty arose in the first place, for example the correct spelling of Serengeti as in fact 'Siringit'. Merurider 19:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Merging this article with Serengeti National Park sounds like a stupid idea, because one is a region, and the other is a park. They are not the same. -- Avochelm 09:52, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Made some editorial changes to the first paragraph. The previous was kind of confusing when you first looked at it. -- L.J.Brooks 4:46, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Since the main consencus above seemed to be not merging the two articles i have extensively updated the Serengeti National Park article which was suggested as being merged into here. I am also happy to update this article to refer to Serengeti District (which is where most links point) which is the only truly definable distinction between the 2 articles. I did this as the main interest is in the national park rather than the district.
Hopefully the edit is helpful and hasn't trodden on any toes.
Merurider 17:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi. New to this, but I was looking at the Serengeti page and someone is taking the mick: Serengeti is an African word and has nothing to do with Wales as far as I am aware. Can anyone wwho knows what they are doing have a look at the entry and edit it appropriately? Oh and one of the references calls a pop-up.
User = Sean Waters Sean Waters 18:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
We need to see where the serengeti is, and what it look like. Kevlar67 13:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Although most sources that I could find state merely that Disney artists went to "Africa", there is no doubt that they went to the Serengeti. Unfortunately, I didn't take any photographs of the rock outcroppings that are interspersed across the plains. The baboa trees seen in the "flim" are seen frequently on the main road into the Serengeti from Arusha. If anyone wants to look at the Lion King dvd, you may find a special feature where they talk about this in greater depth. I hope to have time to do more work on this article in the near future. Steve Pastor 21:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The Serengeti is a 60,000 square kilometer savanna which lies over Tanzania. [1] The Serengeti straddles the Tanzanian Kenyan border. This means that this reference is incorrect. Perhaps the author of this article was writing about the Park only??? Also, there are a number of different habitats, which will be put into the article. Again, I believe a journal article from Africa may be more accurate than one from "The New Scientist". More to come. Steve Pastor ( talk) 23:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Good to know someone is checking things out! Steve Pastor ( talk) 21:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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A map of the area would greatly help in appreciating its geographical location relative to the continent of Africa.— Tetracube ( talk) 00:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Sigh. Had a map once, got deleted from article in vandalism. Then deleted from common a week later. Will try to remember and reload, etc. What a pain. Steve Pastor ( talk) 16:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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138.250.83.90 ( talk) 12:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC) wiki rox! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.8.212.148 ( talk) 18:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I've just looked over both this and the Serengeti National Park articles. I made a few quick changes to this article, because some of the information was just plain wrong. There's a lot of uncited, or incorrectly cited material in here, some of which was jsut wrong - For example, I cut the bit that implied Ol Donyo Lengai is responsible for the hard pan beneath the plains, despite an apparent citation. I don't believe that citation makes this claim at all as the mountain is only 370000 years old, and, e.g., the Laitoli footprints (in the hard pan) are about 2.7MYA. It's well known this comes from the crater highlands instead.
I didn't waste much time working on this article, because I'm still not sure how this should be related to the National Park page. I agree it's different, but I'd feel much happier calling the region the Serengeti/Mara Ecosystem and having a page for that - the ecosystem defined by the movements of the wildebeest migration. It would be perfectly reasonable to have a dismbiguation page for those searching for Serengeti - one pointing to the District, one to the National Park and one pointing to the (wider) ecosystem, but I don't think it would be sensible to name the ecosystem page simply Serengeti - the Kenyan's might not like the implication, and there's already a perfectly good term for the ecosystem. Until I just put the links in now there was no obvius link between this page and the Serengeti National Park page, or vice versa.
If I were doing that, I think I'd just plogh in and instead of trying to tidy things up from where they are (it's too much of a mess for me), I'd plunge throguh and take the information and links from The Serengeti Story History and The Serengeti Story Great Migration. I wrote those posts and am perfectly happy with the work being written suitably for Wikipedia too. But before I do such a radical job I wanted to sound people out over here. I'd also suggest adding a section on ecology to the national park page which essentially points to the serengeti/mara ecosystem page for more details.
Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmbird1 ( talk • contribs) 07:34, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Any revisions should be supported by listed references. If you are going to remove or substanitally change things with a reference, you should ideally have more than one reference. Then there is the whole which is the better reference deal, but we can cross that bridge... Steve Pastor ( talk) 18:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Is it ˌsɛrənˈɡɛti or ˌsɛrəŋˈɡɛti? 71.213.20.90 ( talk) 19:27, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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Our claim is that it's from the Maasai serengit 'endless plains'. But Payne & Ole-Kotikash's dictionary used as a ref (before I removed it) does not support the claim -- indeed, the only hit is for "Serengeti" as a proper noun, presumably a loan word. The other ref is a travel guide, which is not a RS for such things (if it's a RS for anything at all). We need a ref that actually shows the etymology, if one exists. — kwami ( talk) 20:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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This section reads: "Serengeti is mentioned in a 1982 single "Africa" by Toto. The lyrics erroneously describe Kilimanjaro as being located near the Serengeti."
It seems though that whether or not this is actually "erroneous" is somewhat subjective...
"Near" is relative, and Kilimanjaro is about 200km from the closest part of the Serengeti region. Of course this would be a very long walk, and a few hours drive, but relative to Tanzania as a whole, it's not particularly far away either. And relative to Africa as a whole, it's quite close. If one looks on Google Maps and zooms out to where all of Africa becomes visible, then it's almost the same point on the map.
So perhaps it should be edited to note that they are actually relatively close in the greater scheme of Africa, or even Tanzania? - 2003:CA:8710:200:1CFC:7D3C:EE8F:458B ( talk) 21:46, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
It seems difficult to find sources that are about the ecosystem, rather than the park or the district, but these might be useful for others looking to improve the article:
It looks like researching the Maasai relocation would also improve the article, as this seems to have been a controversial point in the Serengeti's history, possibly worth its own sub-section. ~ oulfis 🌸( talk) 08:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
As I try to look around for information about where the boundaries of the Serengeti actually are, if they're not the park or the district, it seems like what people actually refer to is the Serengeti-Mara ecosystem. The sources that just call it "the Serengeti" seem to be more tourism/safari focused, whereas scientific or conservationist sources use Serengeti-Mara. But, I am by no means an expert here, so I hesitate. Maybe there should be a discussion via a requested move (a process I've never done)? @ Cmbird1:, it looks like you have much more expertise and several years ago raised the question of the name -- what do you think? ~ oulfis 🌸( talk) 09:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
I think that there should be a separate for the Great Migration. I created a draft of it. What does everyone think? TigerScientist Chat 04:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Reviewers please see
Draft:Great Migration (Serengeti) for the proprosed split per
TigerScientist
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