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Adding in brief mention to Yellow vests movement in History section

The Yellow vest protests in Paris which were the epicenter of the whole France wide movement similar to the May 68 Protests ought to have at least a brief mention in the history section. The protests brought about major political changes to the French government of the time with Macron eventually raising the minimum wage, getting rid of the fuel tax hike, 'improved government accountability' etc. But only after weeks of massive demonstrations in Paris In which 287,000 protestors took part in at their peak in November and December of 2018. https://www.france24.com/en/20191116-a-year-of-insurgency-how-yellow-vests-left-indelible-mark-on-french-politics https://www.francetvinfo.fr/live/message/5bf/059/0a5/ff4/e90/12a/7ac/c79.html

please unclutter the montage

the lead montage is becoming cluttered. There is no need to say it is a capital. Most everyone knows that, and it is mentioned in the first sentence. There is no need to put captions on each image inside the montage itself. They are all identified in the article, and are all pretty well-known. No need to overdo it. SiefkinDR ( talk) 13:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC) Reply reply

Etymology-Literature

In the Spanish Wikipedia, article under Franciada (by Pierre de Ronsard)appears the following:

‘y el tema de la historia es la vida de un personaje llamado Franciano o Francus, que podría ser Astianacte, el hijo de Héctor, y que sería el germen de la nación francesa. De esta forma, igual que Eneas huye de Troya para fundar Roma, el hijo de Héctor, llega a Galia, funda París en honor al hermano de su padre, Paris, y forma los cimientos de la Francia moderna.’ José Pamplona Muñoz ( talk) 00:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC) Reply reply

Concerning Etymology it’s alright but not so in the History of French Literature even if it’s only Ronsard’s own Fancy:

I suggest translating it from Spanish and adding it to the main page.

So this statement is wrong:

“IN ANY CASE, the city's name is not related to the Paris of Greek mythology.”

In English (from the Franciad Wikipedia page):

“English translation The Franciad has been available in English since 2010. The English version by Phillip John Usher begins:

‘Muse atop the summits of Parnassus, Steer my speech and sing for me that race Of French kings descended from Francion, Hector’s son and of Trojan stock, Who in his tender childhood was called Astyanax or by the name Scamandrius. Tell me of this Trojan’s misfortunes, Of the wars he fought, of his mission, And tell me how many times on the seas (Despite Neptune and Juno) he overcame Fortune And how many times on solid ground he escaped From danger, before going on to build the walls of Paris.‘“ José Pamplona Muñoz ( talk) 02:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC) Reply reply

@ José Pamplona Muñoz:, thanks for the suggestion, but we're not going to follow it, because your premise is wrong The statement
"the city's name is not related to the Paris of Greek mythology"
is accurate. There is no way we are going to translate this content from the Spanish Wikipedia, for two reasons: it's unsourced (and false), and because Wikipedia is not a reliable source (in any language).
Regarding the specific statement in the Spanish article:
  • "De esta forma, igual que Eneas huye de Troya para fundar Roma, el hijo de Héctor, llega a Galia, funda París en honor al hermano de su padre, Paris, y forma los cimientos de la Francia moderna." [a]
This is both unsourced (as is the entire article) and also just a literary fiction. This false notion derives from the inventions of Renaissance poets, who took the mythological stories of Hector and embellished them, adding additional details of their own invention. For example, in the 16th century, poet Jean Lemaire de Belges added some fantasy details about Hector, including inventing a son for him by the name of "Francus", calling him the ancestor of the Franks and founder of the city of Paris. It's all just a fable, and the invention of a Renaissance poet. Other poets then picked up on previous poets' stories, and used them, or embellished them further. It is known that Lemaire was one of Ronsard's favorite authors when he was young, [1] and he very likely knew of Lemaire's account of Hector, and as many others did before him, took it on as well. Mathglot ( talk) 07:43, 11 December 2022 (UTC) Reply reply

Notes

  1. ^ "Thus, just as Aeneas fled Troy to found Rome, Hector's son arrived in Gaul, founded Paris in honor of his father's brother, Paris, and laid the foundations of modern France."

  1. ^ Walter Henry Storer (1923). Virgil and Ronsard. E. Champion. p. 13. OCLC  1072807348.

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Land area for metro area

The info box indicates 18,940.7 km2 as the metro land area. There is not an inline citation for this value. In the text in the Geography section, the land area for the metro area, is given as 2,300 km2, sourced to the Encyclopedia Britannica. An associated small population is given for that smaller area is given at the source. Encyclopedia Britannica gives no source for its numbers or the definition of metropolitan area.

Having such conflicting data in this article seems unnecessary. Can the sentence in the Geography section be deleted, or replaced with the data in the info box, with a source for that very large land area? Is the Paris metro area really 2.6 times the London metro area? That is how I came to notice this difference, as I was comparing London and Paris as to population in city and metro area. The metro area populations are nearly the same, at 13 or 14 million, but the land area difference is huge. - - Prairieplant ( talk) 22:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC) Reply reply