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The numbers in the table are inconsistent with numbers shown for the same figure on other Wikipedia pages. For example, SF Bay Area MSA is shown as ~4M here, but over 7M in other pages 71.191.218.90 ( talk) 15:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Whatever is shown here are the official numbers. This is an article about official OMB-defined Metropolitan Statistical Areas. Other articles on metropolitan areas either use these delineations, exclusively, or include them in a more general understanding of a "metropolitan area." Criticalthinker ( talk) 23:43, 16 August 2023 (UTC) reply

But the numbers being used are inaccurate population figures of these MSAs.

One example, is that the New Orleans-Metairie, MSA you have a population of 972k+. But the census shows to population estimate to be 1,246k. The 972k+ number is from a different categorized as the New Orleans urban (a smaller area within the overall MSA).

Look at New Orleans-Metairie, MSA on this table for the 2022 population estimates. It looks like the same error for every MSA. 2603:6011:3B00:AF04:A8AF:5A5B:FA65:172C ( talk) 00:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC) reply

What’s here are official numbers for urban areas. But they are NOT the official numbers for Metropolitan Statistical Areas, which this page is about. It’s not a page about urban areas. 2603:6011:3B00:AF04:A8AF:5A5B:FA65:172C ( talk) 00:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC) reply

That’s because the person running page is using population data for urban areas instead population data fo Metropolitan Statistical Areas. I posted a link to the correct data in the article, but that link was removed, but the data stays wrong. 2603:6011:3B00:AF04:A8AF:5A5B:FA65:172C ( talk) 00:37, 12 October 2023 (UTC) reply

The defintions and boundaries for all combined statistical areas (metropolitan, micropolitan, and combined) are defined by the US Office of Management and Budget. These were only recently redefined and delineated as of July 2023, and as such, the figures have been recalculated. The new definition and boundaries for these areas can be found here [1]. If you look at page 42 of the document (45 of the PDF), it begins the delineations of each of the metropolitan areas and New Orleans is on page 64 (67 of the PDF) and consists of the following parishes in Louisiana and their populations: Jefferson, Orleans, Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. James, and St. John the Baptist. If you are confusing metropolitan area for combined statistical area (which takes into account New Orleans as well as other surrounding statistical areas, which are also defined in the link provided), that list is currently in the process of being updated given the new 2023 definitions as listed in the link. These are the definitions and boundaries that are being used for this table, and as such, the numbers are correct and accurate. Coulraphobic123 ( talk) 01:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi there from the de:Portal:Vereinigte Staaten! Is there any kind of a summary of all changes by the new 2023 OMB Bulletin regarding new delineations and up-/downgrades of areas to/from MSAs? As there will not take place a new census earlier than 2030, is it therefore necessary to add all the particular county inhabitant numbers of 2020, or is there anywhere a line-up of all numbers of re-defined MSAs one can refer to as a source? It is hard to keep track of things here, as a non-native English speaker. By the way, we prefer to work with census data only and want to avoid using data from an estimate. Thank you for your support. Regards Dionysos1988 ( talk) 21:51, 23 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Perhaps this is what you're looking for?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/OMB-Bulletin-23-01.pdf

We've discussed this above in the "Census estimates for 2023 next year" section of this talk page. Criticalthinker ( talk) 10:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your reply. Actually I thought about a separate document of a summary of all changes compared to 2020. Right now I have updated the whole list. Dionysos1988 ( talk) 12:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC) reply

No such list exists. You have to simply compare the previous delineation list to the most recent one. Criticalthinker ( talk) 08:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Can anyone explain why Mercer County, Pennsylvania is not listed as part of the Youngstown metropolitan area, although it's included on the map, and in the census source? It's listed as a separate micropolitan statistical area, but I don't know why. Kk.urban ( talk) 22:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The Office of Management and Budget periodically (one or twice a decade) revises the definitions of MSAs. While Mercer County was included in the Youngstown-Warren-Boardman MSA in 2013, it is not included in the Youngstown-Warren MSA as of 2023. ^[1]

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Donald Albury 00:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The Youngstown OH stats must be off. All three numbers (2023, 2020, % change) are exactly the same as the next entry, Savannah GA metropolitan area. The different ranking numbers also point to a transcription error. Mason.Jones ( talk) 15:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The 2020 census population for Youngstown-Warren MSA is wrong in that list, but I have not found a 2023 population estimate for the MSA, so I did not edit the list. Donald Albury 16:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I found the error and changed the figures. They were clearly listed by U.S. Census on their 2023 populations estimates webpage. Mason.Jones ( talk) 18:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

And I could not find it, even though I knew it had to be there. But, then, I was in a rush and had to leave for a while. Donald Albury 18:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The problem with never changing the 2020 census population on the chart is that some of the MSA definitions have changed since 2020, and comparing the 2023 estimates for the current definition of an MSA to the 2020 census report for a previous definition of that MSA may be grossly misleading about any changes in population. Donald Albury 21:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

When the new 2023 delineations were released, I manually went through each one of them and recalculated the MSAs given the new boundaries. Since MSAs are defined by county borders, I just used the source from the OMB which listed each county of the new boundaries and updated the 2020 Census figures to reflect those. The 2020 Census colum in this chart is indeed the population figures given the new boundaries. Coulraphobic123 ( talk) 01:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Minor question, but in {{ U.S. city population tables}}, should the numbers include Puerto Rico? Kk.urban ( talk) 22:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply

As Puerto Rico is a part of the United States, that would seem to make sense. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The Census Bureau does separate statistical areas into two categories, the United States and Puerto Rico, and so do our lists. However, it makes sense to include Puerto Rico, because it's on our pages. Kk.urban ( talk) 00:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply