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The Giovanni Da Verrazano teller I've changed Verrazano Narrows to the more correct Narrows which is the historical name for the strait between Long Island and Staten Island. Although "Verrrazano Narrows" has gained coinage in recent years to refer to strait, it is, as far I can tell a result of confusion based on the name of the bridge, which was named Verrazano Narrows Bridge because it spanned the Narrows and also commerorated Giovanni da Verrazano, not because it because spanned a (non-existant) strait called the "Verrazano Narrows." Decumanus 08:29, 17 Jan 2004 "...Verrazano made 3 more voyages...on the second... he was killed." Someone who knows what they are talking about should fix this. david 25 Jan 2004
the personal life of Giovanni De Verrazano that you can help me study. Other than that I understand every thing that you have given me. Thanks for all your help on my project, and your time, but if you could really help me please type back.
The date for his first voyage is 1524, according to two other sources. Should this be changed? Amarite1 ( talk) 20:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
The New England Coast was first called New Dalmatia by Verrazano in 1524. This is well documented on maps by other explorers. The fact that he called the land New Dalmatia could well mean that he has some link to Dalmatia in Croatia. He could be of Croatian Dalmatian origin or just simply spend some time there. Dalmatia Croatia was under Venice rule and the Croat citizens were called Venetian. It was common for all Croatians living under Venice (including Marco Polo) to translate the Slav last name into Italian. {unsigned}
He was born in Florence,Italy in the year 1480. He went to France many times in the age 15-20 and so on. He was ordered by the king of France Francis 1. {unsigned}
It seems that Encyclopedia Britannica (ed. 1993) gives the spelling Giovanni da Verrazzano (which, by the way, is also the CORRECT Italian form). I was thinking to move this page to the correct spelling one. Let me know opinions at my talk. -- Attilios 09:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
As I pointed out, people on Staten Island, where there is a ferry, a bridge, a Little League, and numerous businesses, etc. named for him spell it both ways, confusingly. If you pick one, you really need to have a link to it from the other. HarvardOxon 22:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC) you stupid
This is not my area of expertise so I dont want to change any of the factual content. But May I submit that unless the naming ceremony is conducted in Christian ceremony it is not 'Christened'. While most of us knows what that means it is not correct and can incorrectly indicate a bias towards a Christian interpretation of history. I made the change already and I hope you agree. -- Robotics1 17:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
On planet earth, the ceremony whereby a ship is named is called "christening," as was used in the article -- with ancient analogy to Christian Baptism but having lost absolutely all religious connotation. Here, we don't baptize bridges, but we do have an colloquialism that uses "christening" as "naming" -- it occurs in a variety of contexts and in secular newspapers and television broadcasts about inanimate objhects and ideas every day. How do they do things on your planet? HarvardOxon 18:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so. It might be true for ships in Christian nations on planet Earth. Not a ship lauched in Japan or Israel or Soudi Arabia and so on. Therefore the term is a Christian one whereas I feel Wikipedia should be worldwide - international and non religeous. -- Robotics1 22:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The word 'christen' has very little to do with actual Christian ceremonies, and comes from the Old English word meaning to make Christian. Since about 1450 it has meaned 'to name' and brings no religious connotation with it. Besides this is the English Wikipedia and this term is often used in English. T REX speak 19:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I know the article states that Verrazano can be wrote several differant ways, but the title and the article are not consistant? Could someone correct this?
It's normal for there to be multiple spelling variations, in particular for Spanish people for some reason. It's discussed in a footnote. The name of the article is the most commonly used/known in English. Article titles are placeholders, symbolisms that represent whats in an article, they are not statements of fact. If you want to rename the article follow the renaming procedures (it's controversial so you'll need to get consensus first). Or, use the footnote to explain the spelling variations. --- Stbalbach 04:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was Move Duja ► 08:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
American National Biography says, Giovanni da Verrazzano; that other encyclopedia likewise, noting it is also spelled Verrazano. The Columbia Encyclopedia uses Verrazano, and says it is sometimes spelled Verrazzano. Wroth's The Voyages of Giovanni da Verrazzano seems like a definitive work. I say we move the page to Giovanni da Verrazzano and note the other spelling as alternate. I'd avoid words like 'correct' when talking about English spelling. Tom Harrison Talk 16:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Vote for moving page to Giovanni da Verrazzano:
Regarding this sentence: Giovanni da Verrazzano was an Italian explorer versus this sentence: Giovanni da Verrazzano was a Florentine explorer
I don't agree [with Florentine]. Florence is today just a city. We should begin to write a Paduan, a Mantuan, a Cagliaritan etc. artist for each of the cities they come from? OK, Florence was once a country of its own, but this, at Verrazzano's times, was true for at lease 100 other Italian entities. I think you can find such a distinction between old Italian states only in old-fashioned encyclopedias like Britannica and Catholic. Bye. -- Attilios 18:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a straw poll for input on the first sentence of the article. Should it be mentioned he was a Florentine, or Italian, or both?
I have extensively revised the article. Before was a messy crap devoting just to death and to reputation, and nothing about life and the details of his North American voyage. Hope you'll enjoy.
This line seems odd: "The continent would not be fully mapped until almost the 20th century. "
I take it to mean the arctic parts of Canada weren't mapped until then, but makes it sound like Verrazzano's error was a VERY long time in being corrected. Previous revisions mentioned it took a century.
75.165.55.86 ( talk) 19:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
The very definite statement that he was eaten by cannibals (who could prove that?), who left leftovers that were shared with his family is very colorful, but probably there's far too much uncertainty (disputed for centuries) to leave this as it stands today. Twang ( talk) 16:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
On the image can be read morto nel MDXXV (dead in 1525), which doesn't agree with the date of death published on this article (1528). Which is right ? -- Aldo Caruso ( talk) 14:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Verrazzano entered Penobscot Bay, his last landfall prior to passing Nova Scotia and reaching Newfoundland, thereafter he returned to France. Ekem ( talk) 21:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
The section presents as outdated and “traditional” the reliable and widely known studies that describe Giovanni Da Verrazzano as Italian, while a couple of unreliable nationalistic sources describing him as a Frenchman are presented as recent and accepted by the academies. The nationalistic attempt fails since the very beginning: a check on the actual reliability of the sources used to fool the reader will suffice.
The sources used in order to describe the Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano as a Frenchman are said to be both academic and recent, but that’s not really true. They’re either old or parochial and so unreliable. The first one is a page written by an anonymous entity on the site of the Embassy of France in Washington DC, which is not exactly an academy. The second one is a book written 50 years ago, so that it’s not exactly a recent source, different from what the section claim (“More recent scholarly suggested that Verrazzano was born in Lyon..”): besides this article written by Jack Habert is known for being basically about nationalistic French claims in North America and its history. The third source is from a publisher settled in… Lyon and only this article on the Wikipedia cites it in the whole net: Boucher, Alain (2006). Jean de Verrazane : un lyonnais découvre le site de New-York. Try to search for it: since it is so reliable and widely accepted by so important “recent scholars”, why don’t we find anything about it?
The fact is that wherever you search, objective studies have no doubt in identifying the explorer as Italian.
The contradiction between what the section claim about the reliability of the sources as being “more recent scholarly” and what these sources actually are makes it evident an attempt to fool the reader.
Corrections and more reliable sources are needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.162.129 ( talk) 16:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
verrazzano was rediscovered by a frenchman living in new york named Jacques Habert author of "When new york was called Angoulême" published in ny in 1949 (based on his thesis statement presented at the university of comlombia and paris sorbonne). in 1964 the new york times hailed Jacques Habert as the "godfather" of the verrazano bridge since no one in usa remembered about verrazano (american historian Murphy who's quoted in the current wikipedia article thought that verrazano was a corsair named Jean Fleury...). the bridge was about to be called hudson bridge but there was a buzz about Jacques Habert's thesis and the bridge was christened verrazano for he is the real discoverer of the ny bay (long before englishman hudson). "Judging from the great emotion in the French community over the opening of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, one might think that the explorer was born in France. And maybe he was." wrote philip h. dougherty in the new york times of november 19, 1964 (in the article called "FRENCHMEN HAIL VERRAZANO HERE; Delegation Flies In to Help Open Bridge on Saturday"). Jacques Habert discovered verrazzano archives at Rouen in france and wrote biographies ("La Vie et les voyages de Jean de Verrazane" in 1964 and "Verrazane : Quand New York s'appelait Angoulême" in 1993) where he claims that verrazzano is actually born in Lyon, france in 1481 (not 1485!) which is the reason why there is now a public college in lyon called Jean de Verrazane... Madame Grinderche ( talk) 13:22, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I originally added "so was Verrazzano executed by cannibalism? Or are you saying that there is controversy, but not actually saying this?". Can anyone please provide some clarification for this and sources? Thanks. -- 14.200.68.118 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:29, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be a controversy about the spelling of the name [www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/nyregion/some-see-the-verrazano-bridge-others-see-a-big-typo.html] and although the spelling with one Z was promoted at the time by the executive director of the Italian Historical Society of America based on the way Verraz[z]ano spelled his own name, there now seems to be a consensus that the correct spelling is with two Z's. Can anybody explain why the correct spelling should be one or the other?-- 2604:2000:C54F:E500:1DA2:38CF:26EE:15C0 ( talk) 13:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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According to this article, Verrazzano was "first European to explore the Atlantic coast of North America between Florida and New Brunswick in 1524". However, the entry for Sebastian Cabot (explorer) states that he sailed south to Chesapeake Bay in the spring of 1509. Which one is it?
User:CycloneYoris, the cited page describes Verrazzano's exploration of Narragansett Bay, but it doesn't say he was the first. 144.96.41.37 ( talk) 23:43, 30 October 2020 (UTC)