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Upnor and Upchurch are both small settlements on the river Medway. With their similar names and location some confusion has arisen over where Edmund Drake was vicar. Camden appears to have started the confusion by placing Drake at "Upnore" and this has been repeated many times since. Robjohns writing in 1877 realised that there were problems with this, but possibly being unaware of the existence of Upchurch wrote: ... he was presented to the vicarage of Upnore church on the Medway. A captious critic might properly object that there was no church at Upnore, but as the fact of the presentation is explicitly stated, the reasonable assumption is, ... and then to a chaplaincy at Upnore Castle ... the said chaplaincy being subject to the living of Frindsbury. ^[1] By the time that the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica was published the error had been detected: and is said to have been afterwards vicar of Upnor Church (evidently a misprint or slip of the pen for Upchurch) on the Medway. ^[2] hoever some sources keep repeating the earlier error which has found its way into Wikipedia. This article says He was ordained deacon and was made vicar of Upnor Church on the Medway and cites Whitfield yet the text says: Camden's 'Upnore' is a mistake for Upchurch, a village south of the Medway estuary where Edmund Drake became vicar in 1560 ^[3] and: We do know that when Rdmund Drake, vicar of Upchurch, died in 1566. ^[4] Writing in the "King's England" series, Arthur Mee says of Upchurch: Edmund Drake ... in 1560 they made him vicar of Upchurch. Here he laboured for six years; here he lies ... ^[5] Wood gives an account of Edmund Drake's life and connects the Drakes with both Upchurch and the adjacent small port of Otterham Quay. ^[6]

In view of all of the above I am going to be bold and remove reference to Drake from Upnor and correct it here. It's a pity this wasn't actioned following Janichblue's correction in Talk:Francis_Drake/Archive_3#Sir_Francis_Drake_incorrect_info ten years ago. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 10:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Huh. Good find, there. I have no objection to the change to Upchurch, based on the sources you've provided.

Regarding the Upnor article, I think it would be worth keeping a mention of how "it is said that" Drake's father was the vicar there - both as a matter of preserving the history of that narrative, and to dissuade future editors of that article from adding in what might seem like an excluded "fact". PhotogenicScientist ( talk) 13:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC) reply

•  This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain:  Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). " Drake, Sir Francis". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
• Robjohns, Sydney (1877), "Buckland Abbey and Sir Francis Drake", Transactions of the Royal Historical Society: 267–97, retrieved 22 May 2023 – via JSTOR {{ citation}}: Unknown parameter |vol= ignored (|volume= suggested) ( help)
• Whitfield, Peter (2004), Sir Francis Drake, NYU Press, ISBN  978-0814794036 at Internet Archive
• Wood, David (December 2003), The real Edmund Drake, Vicar of Upchurch, 1560-1567, retrieved 22 May 2023

Mee, Arthur (1969), Kent, The King's England, C. R. Councer (ed.) (New ed. revised and reset ed.), London: Hodder & Stoughton, ISBN  978-0-340-00086-1 at Internet Archive

Just saw a TV show (mysteries of the museum) where they show a brass plate attributed to Drake. It was discovered in the 1930s, but more recent investigation show it was made with techniques from the twentieth century. They found documents describing a prank where it was created to fool the professor who vouched for its authenticity. 24.116.117.129 ( talk) 04:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply

See Drake's Plate of Brass. By the way 24.116.117.129 was any museum mentioned as having the plate now? Mcljlm ( talk) 12:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply

It's on permanent exhibit in the Bancroft Library at UC Berkeley. Ynizcw ( talk) 18:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks Ynizcw. Mcljlm ( talk) 21:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply