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Ben Stockton (30 May 2023).
"Cop28 president's team accused of Wikipedia 'greenwashing'".
The Guardian. The Cop28 president, Sultan Al Jaber, has been accused of attempting to 'greenwash' his image after it emerged that members of his team had edited Wikipedia pages that highlighted his role as CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (Adnoc).
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This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi. I am CB and I have a few edits I would like to have implemented for the Introduction and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company sections.
Please make the following small edits to the Intro so that the paragraph reads as follows: Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber (
Arabic: سلطان أحمد الجابر, born August 31, 1973) is a Cabinet Member and Minister of Industry and Advanced Technology of the
United Arab Emirates,[1][2] Managing Director and Group
CEO of the
Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC Group),[3] the Chairman of
Masdar, and the United Arab Emirates' special envoy for
climate change.[4]
The first paragraph of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section includes too many unnecessary details. After the sentence "He was appointed...on 15 February 2016," please remove the last three sentences and replace them with the following sentence: Since then Al Jaber publicly listed several ADNOC businesses,[5][6] while also attracting about $26 billion in international investment from companies such as
BlackRock,
Eni, and
KKR[7].
The second paragraph in the same section also includes too many details. Please replace it with the following paragraph: Under Al Jaber, ADNOC has invested in
carbon capture and
green hydrogen projects, while also committing to power its operations with
renewable energy sources.[8][9] The company has sought to increase ADNOC's output of crude oil from 3 million barrels of oil a day in 2016 to 5 million by 2030 which they believe is essential to avoid a global supply crunch while the world still relies on conventional fuels,[7] using revenues to invest in carbon capture and green fuel technologies.[10]
Hi @
CB at ADNOC:. I've made a number of the changes you've requested, but some of the changes regard the removal of sourced material and I don't believe that should change - well sourced material that includes pertinent information (even if it's a little more detail than ideally the company would like to see shared in an article) would always be retained in WP, while unsourced information should be challenged and removed (I have in fact removed some unsourced content as well). Do let me know if this works out for you, but do please also review these changes with Wikipedia policies in mind - sourced fact, sourced material is generally kept in, unsourced material challenged and removed. There is a policy
WP:DUE that manages the assignment of due and undue weight in an article and I think the overall position as it stands is fair (to the elements you have requested changes, at least, haven't had time to look at the rest). Best
Alexandermcnabb (
talk) 12:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Closing this request since it has been answered above.
Z1720 (
talk) 23:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
According to the Guardian, 5/40/23, the editor who wrote the above edit request is a paid employee of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company attempting to greenwash the subject of this article.
TheScotch (
talk) 05:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Al Jaber has advocated for a global approach to addressing climate change at international forums such as the
Munich Security Conference, where he spoke in February 2022,[2] stressing that responding to climate change can lead to diversified economic growth.[3] He has also emphasized the key role national hydrocarbon producers should play in the energy transition, arguing that the least carbon-intensive barrels will be required for the foreseeable future.[4]
I am also pinging
Alexandermcnabb who has helped with this page in the past. Thanks so much.
CB at ADNOC (
talk) 08:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)reply
@
CB at ADNOC Edits made as requested (after review). Requestor is cautioned against making direct edits to teh article. Cheers.
Duke Gilmore (
talk) 20:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)reply
@
CB at ADNOC requested 'arguing that the least carbon-intensive barrels will be required for the foreseeable future' be added and
Duke Gilmore added it. Whether @
CB at ADNOC is an impartial source or not (see comment by
TheScotch (
talk)), as it stands, it doesn't make sense. The source cited is the Wall Street Journal, which is behind a paywall. Possibly 'the least carbon-intensive oil will be required for the foreseeable future' might express the sense of what is written in the WSJ article - could someone check and edit this statement?
Robert P Connolly (
talk) 13:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Changes to Masdar section
This
edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.
Hi there, my name is
Zkhan2023. I'd like to propose the following changes to the article:
Please move the Masdar subsection to the top of the Business career section, to ensure that the section reads in proper chronological order.
Update the Masdar section to the version below, which better articulates his roles and activities at the company, complete with sources:
Al Jaber was the founding CEO of Masdar, beginning in 2006, and was appointed the chairman in March 2014.[1] Under his leadership Masdar expanded its investment in
renewable energy[2] and as of the end of 2022 was invested in 40 countries.[3] Under his chairmanship Masdar underwent a restructuring that brought in
TAQA,
ADNOC and
Mubadala as shareholders in 2022.[4] Al Jaber's goal is to expand Masdar's clean energy capacity to 100GW by 2030, making it the second largest renewable investor in the world.[5]
Pinging
Alexandermcnabb who appears to have been helpful with previous edit requests on this page. Thanks for your time,
Zkhan2023 (
talk) 08:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Implemented in the article with references. Feel free to reopen this discussion if there are any issues. Thanks,
Zkhan2023 (
talk) 05:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)reply
In the spirit of reflexivity...
Here's today's Guardian article, describing the attempts of the subject of this article to
improve his depiction here:
The account @
CB at ADNOC is literally ran by Sultan Al Jaber's team. They are paid for creating a good image, requesting to remove negative and add positive information. Why should Wikipedia cater someone's commercial interests, let alone interests of a fossil fuel company that is trying to infiltrate climate conferences, so it can carry on destroying the world?
148.252.133.105 (
talk) 18:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Because not all CoI edits are bad, or even controversial. We encourage CoI editors to declare their CoI, and to use talk pages to request` all but the most benign edits. Each CoI should be judged on its merits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 19:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)reply
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
This article currently makes quite extensive use of The National, a UAE newspaper, as a source. Most of the uses aren't particularly controversial, as they are mostly press release-style announcements of Al Jaber doing this or that.
However, it appears that The National is owned by a royal and PM of the UAE. We thus have a source here owned by the UAE government (or rather someone with immediate stakes in said government) reporting on issues regarding the UAE government, which calls reliability and notability of The National as a source into question. I'd rather not use it in this article but I'd like to hear some input.
Cortador (
talk) 08:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Addendum: there's also some other possibly not reliable sources: Energy Voice is owned by the carbon industry, and advertises itself
as being able to "provide members with a unique marketing platform". Gulf Business and Gulf News are owned or partially owned by Obaid Al Tayer, who was an Emirati minister until recently.
Editors largely agree that The National is at minimum not a suitable source for topics related to the UAE, and possibly generally unreliable (see
here).
Hi all, I disclose that I have a conflict of interest and would like to suggest the following changes to the article to bring it up to date.
Alexandermcnabb and
Cortador I note you have responded thoughtfully to previous requests on this subject matter and would appreciate your input on these suggestions - many thanks in advance!
1. The introduction currently reads:
Al Jaber is the UAE's special envoy for
climate change, and the president-designate of the
COP28 climate talks. His appointment as head of the COP28 climate talks was strongly criticized by environmentalists due to his track record at ADNOC. As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has overseen a substantial expansion of gas and oil production at the same time that
fossil fuel industries are under pressure to reduce output in order to
mitigate climate change.
Can this be updated from designate to president (as he did carry out this role), and could a sentence be added to indicate the international response to his work in this capacity. The new text would read as follows:
Al Jaber is the UAE's special envoy for
climate change, and the president of the
COP28 climate talks. Following the summit, his role as president has been recognized due to the delivery of a climate agreement that contained language directing a "transition away" from fossil fuels for the first time.[1][2][3] His appointment as head of the COP28 climate talks was strongly criticized by environmentalists due to his track record at ADNOC. As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has overseen a substantial expansion of gas and oil production at the same time that
fossil fuel industries are under pressure to reduce output in order to
mitigate climate change.
2. Similarly, there is no update on the results of COP28 in the COP28 Presidency section. Could the following or similar be added:
Under Al Jaber's presidency, the summit committed to a climate agreement containing language directing a "transition away from fossil fuels". This was the first
United Nations Framework Convention on Climate ChangeCOP event where an agreement was reached which suggested such a direction for fossil fuels.
3. In the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the third paragraph refers to output, but this figure actually refers to production capacity and should be changed accordingly i.e. "As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has sought to increase ADNOC's crude oil production capacity from 3 million barrels of oil a day in 2016 to 5 million by 2030."[1]
4. Also in the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the first line is "Al Jaber has tried to position himself as an environmental advocate". The wording of the original New York Times source refers to "serving as an environmental advocate" rather than "trying to position" but it is hard to describe levels of advocacy without subjectivity. As the Sultan's actions/role both as a climate advocate and as a fossil fuels executive are covered amply elsewhere in the paragraph and in the rest of the article, and the paragraph still makes sense without this sentence, I would like to suggest removing this sentence to preserve a neutral tone.
Many thanks for considering these changes.
Dedemocha (
talk) 17:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I've added the blurb regarding the COP28 agreement. I won't include this in the lead at this point, since the agreement did receive criticism, and its mainly about COP28, not Al Jaber. If other editors think it belongs into the lead, I'll add it there.
The term "output" is used by several sources (BBC, Financial Times), and BBC News has cast doubt on whether this actually refers to capacity. These sources a stronger than the EIA, which is a primary source.
Regarding the last point: the article also states: "For more than a decade he has tried to position the Persian Gulf state as a leader on environmental issues, acting at the behest of Abu Dhabi’s de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed." This wording casts doubt on the advocacy. Neutrality in the context of Wikipedia means sticking to what sources state - it does not mean using neutral language.
Cortador (
talk) 13:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks @
Cortador, I really appreciate you looking through this request.
Regarding the capacity vs output point, other secondary sources such as the
FT and
Reuters definitely use "output/production capacity" rather than "output" if that helps?
On the advocacy point I take your meaning on sticking to what the sources state. In that case, could the sentence be rephrased to say "Al Jaber has tried to position the UAE as a leader on environmental issues." This is based on the statement you identified, and is closer to the original NYT wording.
Thanks again for engaging with my suggestions!
Dedemocha (
talk) 17:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)reply